Talk:Oxford Parkway railway station
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Station site
edit"The station would be built on the site of the former Oxford Road Halt"; difficult, that would put it under the A4165 bridge. It would probably be slightly to the north-east. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Coordinate error
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This article is pointed at the Oxford Peartree park and ride car park, and should instead be pointed at the Water Eaton park and ride car park about a quarter mile to the northeast. A smaller article pointed there correctly identifies that as the site of the former Oxford Road halt, which the new station will replace (as correctly mentioned in this article). As this will be a brand new railway station serving North Oxford and Kidlingto it is important to locate it correctly. 92.24.69.24 (talk) 23:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- True. Personally I ignore the co-ordinates, as they are (a) difficult to obtain without a GPS or similar and (b) difficult to use with readily-available printed maps. Instead I use OS grid references, since Ordnance Survey maps are readily available, and several other mapmakers use the same system. The Grid reference in the infobox was added by myself, a day or two ago, and I believe is correct to within 100 metres of the proposed location - which is the best you'll get with a 6-figure ref, and is the length of a 4-coach train. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the coords to match the gridref location. Two other points which I noticed - has it really been decided that the station will have two platforms? Also, if I'm right in thinking that the Buckinghamshire Junction Railway curved off slightly to the north of the site, would Oxford Road Halt have had through services to Yarnton? Lamberhurst (talk) 07:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding platforms - unless the line is doubled as part of the Bicester curve plan, I suggest that W.E.P. will have just one platform. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding the junction - I've expanded Oxford Road Halt railway station, which should help. It has been said[where?][who?] that Mitchell & Smith may not be 100% reliable, but I do find them better than Simpson; and they do provide a reproduction of a 1914 map in "Oxford to Bletchley", fig. VI and a 1936 map as fig. VII in the same book - this should clear up the matter. They show that the junction mentioned above - named Oxford Road Junction on the maps - was immediately to the south-west of Oxford Road Crossing, which was itself immediately to the south-west of Oxford Road Halt. The point of divergence was still further south-west. Similar, but later, maps are also in "Oxford to Moreton-in-Marsh", fig. V (1922) and in "Didcot to Banbury", fig. XIII (1947), but these are cropped close to the point in question. I believe that a direct service between Oxford Road Halt and Yarnton was feasible, but cannot find any evidence for one: any doubt ought to be discussed at Talk:Oxford Road Halt railway station. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- A relevant copy of Bradbury would be useful; no doubt Bill Simpson would know. Interestingly, the photo added to this page seems to match up with an older image featuring on p. 47 of the first volume of Simpson's Oxford/Cambridge work. It shows a grain silo (which still appears to be extant) together with the "hut of an old LNWR weighing machine office" which stood on the gravel area adjacent to the track. Also in the vicinity were the offices of Amey served by a siding. Would be interesting to know whether the crossing keeper's house at Water Eaton Crossing just to the north still exists. Lamberhurst (talk) 21:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not familiar with Bradbury; what is the title of the book you have in mind? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant Bradshaw! I'm going to copy the Oxford Rd Halt discussion to that page as I'm still trying to get to the bottom of exactly where it was sited. Lamberhurst (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not familiar with Bradbury; what is the title of the book you have in mind? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- A relevant copy of Bradbury would be useful; no doubt Bill Simpson would know. Interestingly, the photo added to this page seems to match up with an older image featuring on p. 47 of the first volume of Simpson's Oxford/Cambridge work. It shows a grain silo (which still appears to be extant) together with the "hut of an old LNWR weighing machine office" which stood on the gravel area adjacent to the track. Also in the vicinity were the offices of Amey served by a siding. Would be interesting to know whether the crossing keeper's house at Water Eaton Crossing just to the north still exists. Lamberhurst (talk) 21:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Moved latitude-longitude coordinates in article closer to the OS grid reference. BrainMarble (talk) 02:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, must admit that I hadn't checked the previous coord amendment 07:25, 8 September 2009 against Lamberhurst's comment of 07:30, 8 September 2009 (above). I'm not too hot on lat/long except: Greenwich is long 0; the OS gridref datum meridian is 2 deg W; Britain is between 50 deg and 60 deg N. So a difference of fractions of a degree means little to me; I just assumed that it was correct. Now I look at it again, I see that the lat change was 0.000006 deg (0.0216 sec) and the long change was 0.000011 deg (0.0396 sec) (and given that 1 second of latitude is less than 31 metres, this amounts to a shift of under two metres - less than a platform's width). Seems that he'd again placed it near Peartree P&R, at approximately the position of the southern junction of the Yarnton Loop triangle instead of just beyond the north-eastern junction (Oxford Road Junction) of the same triangle. Now, the sentence "Also, if I'm right in thinking that the Buckinghamshire Junction Railway curved off slightly to the north of the site, would Oxford Road Halt have had through services to Yarnton" makes sense; it was a mistake in placing the stations (both Oxford Road Halt and W.E.P.); so that if "north" be replaced by "south" in that sentence, it falls into place; however, the answer to that remains as I stated previously. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the coords to match the gridref location. Two other points which I noticed - has it really been decided that the station will have two platforms? Also, if I'm right in thinking that the Buckinghamshire Junction Railway curved off slightly to the north of the site, would Oxford Road Halt have had through services to Yarnton? Lamberhurst (talk) 07:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Number of Platforms
editThe current version of the Evergreen 3 prospectus shows on page 4 that the station will have two platforms. In fact the line will be doubled from a point half way between Wolvercote Tunnel and WEP all the way to Bicester, which means rebuilding Islip too. Mertbiol (talk) 14:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Station Name
editAccording to BBC's South today who are so so quick on the draw reporting news items(!) <scarcasm> the station name is going to be "Oxford Parkway" is there any other source that can prove this? 17:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.137.58 (talk)
- I saw that TV news item, and so I immediately checked BBC News Oxford, but that has no mention - it was last updated at 15:57 (it's now 20:55 BST). However, Chiltern Railways have issued a Press Release. The Oxford Times mentions it in passing. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- This is all I could find on the BBC site. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:43, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Clarification with Oxford Parkway Park and Ride
editThe Park and Ride is no longer known as Water Eaton and is now instead also called Oxford Parkway. I have added an About to mention this distinction as it may not be clear that they are separate. The reviews for the Park and Ride on google maps and the Oxford council website make it clear though that this has been the source of confusion for some. Therefore I think that either the About is needed or the redirect from Oxford Parkway should be removed as it is now ambiguous.
I went with the former for now. Greenking2000 (talk) 08:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've changed your {{about}} to {{redirects}}, which has the same result only prettier. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you are correct that works better. Thanks! Greenking2000 (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC)