Talk:Péter Eckstein-Kovács/RFC

RFC on Ethnicity of Subject

{{rfc|bio|soc|pol}} Should the Hungarian ethnicity of the subject of the article be mentioned in the [[WP:LEDE|lede sentence]]? ~~~~

Please reply Yes or No with a brief supporting statement in the Survey. Do not respond to other editors in the Survey. The Discussion section is for back-and-forth discussion.

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No. Mentioning the ethnicity in this case does not follow MOS:Ethnicity nor does it add anything to the notability of the subject as the mention connected with the persons former political affiliation falls under: "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability"--Aristeus01 (talk) 04:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes. From the MOS:ETHNICITY guideline's example with writer Isaac Asimov, ("Per the above guidance, we do not add ethnicity or country of birth. These details can be introduced in the second sentence if they are of defining importance.") it is clear that mentioning the gentleman's ethnicity is appropriate. Eckstein-Kovács spent most of his political career as a prominent member (running for presidency and finishing second in 2011) of a Hungarian party in Romania that aims to represent the minority's interests. (See its achievements: [1].) Back-and-forth discussion on the topic can be found here: [2]. Gyalu22 (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes. I read also the guideline MOS:ETHNICITY, according to the guideline the ethnicity is relevant in this case. He also member of Hungarian political party in Romania. Btw I do not understand why it is a big problem to mention people ethnicity, or deny it, I see in wiki hundred of articles about persons when ethnicity of current living or historical people are mentioned in the lead. Even Hungarian and Romanian wiki both mention in the lead that he is ethnic Hungarian in Romania: Hungarian wiki: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckstein-Kovács_Péter (Eckstein-Kovács Péter (Kolozsvár, 1956. július 5. –) romániai magyar jogász, a Romániai Magyar Demokrata Szövetség (RMDSZ) politikusa, volt kisebbségügyi miniszter) = ethnic Hungarian lawyer in Romania, member of Romanian Hungary party) and Romanian wiki: https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Péter_Eckstein-Kovács. (Péter Eckstein-Kovács (n. 5 iulie 1956, Cluj, România) este un om politic de etnie maghiară din România, de profesie avocat, fost membru al Uniunii Democrate Maghiare din România și vicepreședintele platformei liberale din această formațiune.) = an ethnic Hungarian politician from Romania, a lawyer by profession, a former member of the Hungarian Democratic Union in Romania and the vice-president of the liberal platform in this formation. His ethnicity is clearly not debated, anyway everybody can ask him about this, he is a living person. I do not understand why we need waste of time for this small thing and also I do not not know the real reason why some user do not want see the "Hungarian" word in the lead regarding an ethnic Hungarian person.OrionNimrod (talk) 15:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)