Talk:P-Funk mythology
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editIs this for real? Seems semi-humorous. Is that because the topic itself is tongue-in-cheek? --Ed Poor
- It is semi-humorous. Or actually, I find it very humorous, but it is also real. Including a description of what occurs in each concept album is useful (and I will do so) but would not give the complete picture. Hence, P Funk mythology includes the overarching story which appears on multiple albums. As for whether or not it is, technically, a "mythology" I have no idea--it is, kinda. I'm certainly open to discussing a better title for the article. Tokerboy 17:20 Oct 17, 2002 (UTC)
- I also don't think it should be listed as a type of mythology in the article mythology, or anything like that, though I am considering if the Funk is a type of mana. Tokerboy 17:22 Oct 17, 2002 (UTC)
- Technically, I'd say P Funk designs itself and qualifies as a mythology in Roland Barthes' sense of the word (see Mythologies). Barthes' mythologies (which include lipstick and cowboys, if I remember rightly) also wouldn't suit inclusion in the mythology article. --212.84.121.37 11:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Phish fans refer to the story of Gamehenge as a myth or narrative. Is there some correlation here? -Tubby
- Not sure exactly what you mean. There's no connection between Gamehenge and P Funk that I can think of, except maybe in a very abstract, philosophical sense. I don't think most musicians deserve an article such as this (I can't think of anyone besides P Funk) because this describes connections between albums that would otherwise be very complex to research, if the info was split among several articles. Gamehenge is a single piece of music that certainly qualifies as a narrative, and debatably as a myth, but is not a mythology in the same sense that Greek mythology is, nor in the sense that P Funk mythology is, because it is entirely self-contained. As far as I know, there are no references to Gamehenge-related places, people, races or themes in other Phish albums, and there are certainly no overarching recurring elements.Tokerboy 22:21 Oct 17, 2002 (UTC)
There is also at least on other character. His name is "The One". (Some people call him "The Funk"). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.76.138 (talk) 23:01, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
SIr last appearance was actually on Xavier's Work That Sucker to Death. He says the famous line, "It's Turk que sucka te Sell." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.166.47.172 (talk) 17:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Original research
editThis entire article consists of WP:original research. It needs to cite sources that describe some of the concepts behind the P-Funk albums. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 17:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
African-American Influences
editFailed to mention that the mythology stem from conditions of African American culture in America
For example,
Mr wiggles is a europeanized blackman etc. There is a documentary that discusses this even more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykuHxOS0r10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkman1984 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Star Child vs. Dr. Funkenstein
editI always thought that Star Child was embodied by Bootsy Collins and that Clinton was Dr. Funkenstein. Having gone to a P-Funk concert in 1997 that was my understanding although things were a bit hazy... Also I believe Bootsy is seen with a purple star shaped guitar and sun glasses furthering the concept as Star Child. Granted the P-Funk lore is at best a disjointed collection of songs and is still intended to be nothing but a good time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doog37 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Further Work
editI've added many citations to academic literature and the songs themselves. It would be great to have some real citations of the liner notes for these albums, which is where the mythology really expands. I also think a major overhaul might be in order. This article is essentially chronological. It might be more helpful for it to be organized categorically.Trumpetrep (talk) 04:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Citation 1 regarding the animated film shown on the Earth Tour
edit2 issues with this: 1. It was during The Flashlight Tour that this film was shown, not The Earth Tour.
2. Overton Loyd did the animation based on his comic book which was included in early copies of the Funkentelechy album. Other than being a major influence on Loyd's own work, Pedro Bell had nothing to do with this film. 67.86.176.102 (talk) 18:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)