Talk:PEGASUS (reconnaissance system)
Latest comment: 4 days ago by SMcCandlish in topic Requested move 25 October 2024
Requested move 25 October 2024
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PEGASUS (reconnaissance system) → PEGASUS Signal Intelligence Aircraft – The title was the German translation, but this new title better describes the topic Fabien Tremoulinas (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC) ==
https://defence-network.com/premiere-pegasus-signalaufklaerungsflugzeug/
- Comment: Certainly not with uppercase for the words. I also don't see a clear justification for the all-caps "PEGASUS" in the cited sources. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- The article's lead sentence clearly indicates this is an acronym (of that annoying sort built partly out of multi-letter fragments instead of initial letters only). Whether that's supported in reliable source material is a separate question but "the cited sources" are not really relevant for that determination; rather, the available sources would be. Per MOS:ACRO, we would render this as PEGASUS in such a case because it is an acronym, even if sources often do not (acronyms/initialisms are a general exception to the default rule of MOS:CAPS, unless they have become re-assimilated into the language as words that speakers no longer interpret as acronyms, e.g. laser, radar, scuba). But if the "Persistent German Airborne Surveillance System" derivation turns out to be a fiction, then obviously this should move to having sentence-case "Pegasus" instead of "PEGASUS". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose – That phrase does not appear in the article or its sources. The only basis I find online is this one sentence from Facebook and Instagram, with odd capitalization: "The first Bombardier Global 6000-derived Pegasus Signal Intelligence aircraft performed its first flight at Bombardier's plant." Dicklyon (talk) 17:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, since the proposed title isn't attested in the source material. It's also against MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS, MOS:MILCAPS, WP:LOWERCASE. Even if the capitalization were fixed, we do not appear to have any need for a WP:NDESC descriptive phrase (being unattested, this one necessarily fails WP:NATURAL). It's not 100% certain to me that "(reconnaiassance aircraft)" wouldn't be better; that this subject has "systems" associated with it may be irrelevant, since this is probably true of all modern military aircraft. But that might be better as a separate RM after this one closes. And that should be speedily, since the nomination is invalid on its face for having zero source support and no policy-based rationale for the change, just a subjective opinion about "better". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)