Talk:Palawan peacock-pheasant

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The result of the move request was: already moved by Jimfbleak —innotata 21:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC) —innotata 21:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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• Palawan Peacock-pheasant → Palawan Peacock-Pheasant
• Malayan Peacock-pheasant → Malayan Peacock-Pheasant
• Bornean Peacock-pheasant → Bornean Peacock-Pheasant
• Germain's Peacock-pheasant → Germain's Peacock-Pheasant
• Grey Peacock-pheasant → Grey Peacock-Pheasant
• Hainan Peacock-pheasant → Hainan Peacock-Pheasant
• Bronze-tailed Peacock-pheasant → Bronze-tailed Peacock-Pheasant
• Mountain Peacock-pheasant → Mountain Peacock-Pheasant

– Relisting. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)Pvmoutside (talk) 02:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Birds is using the IOC World list to standardize english names. The IOC has capitalized the P in Pheasant. All IOC moved english names have capitized the word after the hyphen. Move button is locked. I've placed the move request on the genus page since it involves multiple species.

The genus page: Talk:Peacock-pheasant Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Capitalisation of common names of species. Jenks24 (talk) 05:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
  • How does that page support your position? Ucucha (talk) 20:36, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Wilson's Storm-petrel is cited in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Capitalisation of common names of species. That supports the "oppose", right? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, missed that. The article on that bird is actually called Wilson's Storm Petrel, though. Ucucha (talk) 16:17, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Don't think we need to follow the rule so rigidly, and it is a strange example now storm petrel (which I think is much more common) is used. And peacock-pheasant is a rather different form of compound from storm-petrel or red-winged Still, I don't much care which name is used here, though suppose we might as well go with the standard. --—innotata 16:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Exactly why we need to nail down the guidelines. Whatever the outcome, I would love to see it added to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Animals/Draft capitalization guidelines. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

• Relisting - Since this is a multi-move and concerns principles that may affect other articles, I'm relisting it to allow for more discussion, and I'm going to leave some notes at relevant WikiProjects to see what more people think. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC) Notes left here and here. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

• Neutral - A large number of sources, both academic and layman, separate the words into 'Peacock Pheasant', depending on how you guys are going to treat it as, I would prefer 'Peacock Pheasant' if they were two words, and 'Peacock-pheasant' if it remains a compound word. Either way... is it really a big deal? -- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
  • It's not, but on Wikipedia people tend to make a big deal out of things that are not. The best way to avoid that is to agree on a standard, and the birds project has done so. That standard prescribes "Peacock-Pheasant" for these animals. Ucucha (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
• Comment. Looks as if my oppose may be holding this RM up. The link I gave is pretty clear on the issue: "In a hyphenated name, the part after the hyphen is not capitalised." But if there is consensus from the birds project that certain birds should not be subject to this rule (I do get that "Red-winged" is quite different to "Peacock-pheasant"), then that's fine by me. Just add a footnote or something to the relevant guideline and I'll withdraw my oppose. Jenks24 (talk) 11:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment: Following other groupings with similar capitalization structures (see Monal-Partridges, Cuckoo-Hawks, Harrier-Hawks, Hawk-Eagles, Cuckoo-Doves, Hawk-Cuckoos, etc).......Pvmoutside (talk) 12:49, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Fair enough. I've struck my oppose, but it would be great if someone with more knowledge than me on this topic could make a clarification at the relevant guideline. Jenks24 (talk) 06:54, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
• Comment Of course, if we used lowercase like most reliable sources do instead, we wouldn't need to worry about this distinction. Just sayin'. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 00:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
• PAGES MOVED 9/12/11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvmoutside (talk • contribs) 09:26, 13 September 2011

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Female of the peacock-pheasant

Is the female of the peacock-pheasant the peahen-pheasant or does she use the name of her husband, like Mrs William Coutts? Sebastian woanders (talk) 19:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)