Talk:Palestinian Americans

NPOV Dispute

The last paragraph reads the following right now:

Palestinians with American, British, and other Western Passports still suffer from Israeli suspicion on the grounds of security. They are sometimes turned away from Israeli border checkpoints because they were born in the Palestinian territories or have family living there

I find this very biased considering the fact that it mentions an Israeli bias towards ANY Palestinians as a matter of fact and an unneccessary generalization of the situation at the Israeli border checkpoints and the related procedures.

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by IceCube (talk • contribs) 00:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC) 

I tried to get this article more natural and less biased.

I assume that Some people believe "that the term (palastinian american) sparks controversy ..." but maybe others do not.

The whole sentance "some Palestinian-Americans are opinionated on the Israeli army occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, as the US government long backed the state of Israel's right to exist that Palestinians, whose families are dislocated refugees, find a deeply emotional sensitive issue" is badly phrased and totaly biased. I revised it to state that: (1) Some Palastinian-Americans are bothered by the Palastinian refugee problem and the Israeli occupation of the West bank (I assume this is the majority) (2) Some Palastinian-Americans object the peace process and deny Israel's right to exist (This is a somewhat radical agenda which suspect only a minority of Palastinian-Americans agree to).

I also rephrased the sentance "Palestinians with American, British, and other Western Passports still suffer from Israeli suspicion on the grounds of security. They are sometimes turned away from Israeli border checkpoints because they were born in the Palestinian territories or have family living there". I removed generalizations and also removed the reason "because they were born in the Palestinian territories or have family living there" as it is biased and does not conform to the sources cited.

I included examples and references to everything.

Tkalisky (talk) 04:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I do not see a generalization of Israeli border checkpoints since the article uses the word "sometimes". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.195.202.110 (talk) 04:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Names of Conflicts

I changed the names of the conflicts to represent the perspective of Palestinians, from "1948 Arab israeli War" to "Nakba", from "six day war" to "june war", and from "yom kippur war" to "october war". These are accepted alternate names for these conflicts and direct to the same page, except in the case of nakba versus 1948 Arab-israeli war. In that case, I believe that it is much more accurate to say that Palestinian americans left as a result of the Nakba rather than the war, since the Nakba is the Palestinian name for the disaster of palestinian emigration of 1948. If you do not understand the Nakba, you do not understand what it is to be a Palestinian refugee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.136.116 (talk) 08:56, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Someone changed the names back to the Israeli-narrative terminology, without commenting here on the talk page. Also they removed all references to the October/Yom Kippur war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.136.116 (talk) 03:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

"Christians escaping persecution from the Ottoman Empire in the late 19th century"

I found this part particularly interesting but haven't found much further information on it. A link or a source citation would be nice. 213.109.230.96 (talk) 11:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Ralph Bakshi

Hello User:Mythic Writerlord, Mandatory Palestine wasn't a Palestinian entity and doesn't indicate a Palestinian identity, just like many other Jews that were born during the British Mandate. No source refers to him as Palestinian. Infantom (talk) 17:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Arabic!

Hello @Iryna Harpy: Arabic is my native language and I can tell you that the correct. In Arabic Wikipedia فلسطينيو أمريكا means that Palestinian of America. Regards--Marlo Jonesa (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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"Activism" section

I've removed this section, which was based on a single source about Linda Sarsour, who is a well-known Palestinian-American activist. This fact alone does not imply (a) that she represents Palestinian-American "activism" at large, (b) that "many" such activists support a one-state solution, or (c) that political activism is a relevant concern for most Palestinian Americans, whether post-9/11 or otherwise.

In fact, according to the first tertiary source cited in the article, "[o]ne of the few studies of the Palestinian experience" found that "Palestinian Americans are typically not more politically active than the population at large", and a 2005 paper on "Arab-American Political Activism and Civil Liberties in the Post 9/11 Era" published by the Wilson Center doesn't directly mention Palestinian Americans at all. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 03:07, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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Added Notable Figures Section and Expanded the Politics section

Hello all, I added some information about candidates like Ammar Campa-Najjar who is running for Congress in the 50th district of California to the government section, to expand on the examples of Palestinian Americans in government. I also added some information about important figures that those who come to this page may benefit by recieving information about; Such as Edward Said, who influenced American political philosophy in a big way. I also mentioned an activist by the name of Huwaida Arraf, and the hip hop star DJ Khaled. I do plan to add Rashida Tlaib and Linda Sarsour later. I noticed that one of the above comments mentions removing a section about Linda Sarsour, and I was thinking of bringing some of the content back under the newly created Notable Figures section. IssaAboudi (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

TransJordanian

Change the description to TransJordanian. The claim of being a Palestinian is a POV as there was never such a nationality.108.176.66.234 (talk) 11:52, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Demographics/US Cities: Chicago Palestinian count is wrong

The Demographics -> US Cities section includes the claim, "There is an estimated population of 85,000 Palestinians in Chicago, and Palestinians form 60% of the community in the area." The linked websites do make this claim, but they are probably typos as they are off by a scale of 10. Official 2010 Census numbers (ACS) put the total US Palestinian count at 83,241 (https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/2013/acs/acsbr10-20.pdf) while more recent data accessible through Social Explorer puts the Chicago metro Palestinian count at 15,182 compared to 90,000 people of Arab ancestry (https://www.socialexplorer.com/tables/ACS2019_5yr/R13363373). 2600:1700:71D0:6310:CCED:5F56:A81F:B645 (talk) 18:05, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Views on Footnote 18

As the source is depreciated per RFC: Electronic Intifada , I would generally advocate for removal. However, if there isn’t a person with the same name, the author appears to be a subject matter expert. If this assessment is accurate, I would advocate for non-removal unless a better source is found, unless someone disagrees? FortunateSons (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

The largest Palestinian community in the US

"The New York City Metropolitan Area, including North Jersey and Brooklyn, is home to the largest Palestinian population in the United States."

What are the numbers underpinning this claim? Recent reporting based on 2020 US Census data indicates that Cook County, Illinois has the greatest Palestinian count in the U.S., with 18K+ Palestinians, far exceeding the combined total of both Passaic County, NJ (#5, with <4K) and Kings County, New York (#8, with <3K).Estimates further support that the Chicago metropolitan area as a whole leads New York in Palestinian population. In light of this, the picture and caption under the "History" subheading should be changed.

Also considering that the Palestinian diaspora is shared among several major cities, there is not enough evidence to suggest that "Most Palestinians settled in the areas surrounding Paterson..." this implies that the majority of the Palestinian-American population is in the NYC area, where in fact numbers indicate that NY does not lead the nation in this category, and neither metro area is likely to constitute a majority of the U.S. diaspora, which numbers about 140K according to the same Census bureau estimates.

Lastly, under the cuisine section, the claim that "Kanafeh is becoming very popular in the United States, mostly in New York City" seems ill-supported. As if New York is the only place where people are eating kanafeh... 209.122.136.186 (talk) 14:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Looked a little more closely at the Census numbers. 2022 5-year estimates have 26K Palestinians in Chicago metro vs. 18K in NY-NJ. Will adjust the above content as mentioned. 209.122.136.186 (talk) 14:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)