Talk:Pan Am (TV series)

Edit request on 1 December 2011

Would you please change "cancelled" to "canceled" for me? The reason for this is because "canceled" is spelled with only one "l".

AdamDeanHall (talk) 15:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Fair point, as this is an article about an American series, although the word is spelt (note, not "spelled") "Cancelled" in British English - Two countries separated by a common language :) Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 16:07, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Changed two instances to "canceled". One remains but it is the title of an Irish source. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Either way is perfectly acceptable. See http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cancel Personally, I prefer two l's.Television fan (talk) 00:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

While either way is acceptable, consistency across Wikipedia would be a good thing. Google tells us that "cancelled" is the most common spelling, both within the Wiki and on the broader WWW. Some OCD editor should pursue and wipe out all instances of "canceled." Bustter (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Spoilers in Cast Section

I've just come to look up the real life name of a cast member only to read that they are discovered as a double agent in the finale season finale. Very annoyed! I have removed that sentence as surely the case should be a description of who they are / job they do. Brief, non spoiler type info. It appears that more spoiler information has been entered for other cast members. Should this be removed too? I wanted to ask because I didn't want to perform a mass edit, and I don't particularly want to spoil anymore of the season by reading anything else :( 82.13.229.66 (talk) 21:46, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Please see this page for Wikipedia's policy regarding spoilers. Regards, RA0808 ^talk_contribs 21:48, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm in favor of current spoiler policy, but there is a feasible argument to be made against including such plot information in a list of series characters. The common argument against spoiler warnings is that spoilers should be expected in an encyclopedic plot summary. Leaving crucial plot pivot-points out of character summaries seems a reasonable goal, as it makes the Wiki more "user friendly." Bustter (talk) 19:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Use character names

The characters should be listed by their names in the series, not by the actors. Have already changed those for Main Cast. Also, recommend listing by alphabetical order, as there seems no reason for the listing as is. Too much content is provided on the characters; it should be identity, not a rolling account of events.Parkwells (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The section is titled "Cast", not characters, so listing character names first is inconsistent. MOS:TV#Cast information actually suggests that a "means of displaying the information would be in a "ACTOR as CHARACTER" format", and this is consistent with the section name. The issue of listing characters has been discussed time and again, and the consensus is to list cast in credited order, as per the infobox, which is how the cast section was organised. I've restored the cast section accordingly. Unfortunately this has had the effect of reverting the valid changes that you had made but your changes prevented it being done any other way. I've removed the imdb refs, but I disagree with your assertion that too much content is provided on the characters. Coverage of the series consists only of this article and the episode list (which could probably be merged back here); there is no separate "List of Pan Am (TV series) characters" so a slight expansion isn't unreasonable. The amount of content in each character description is by no means excessive (903 words for 20 characters = only 45 words per character.) --AussieLegend (talk) 05:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

While the statement that actor-as-character format is consistent with the section being titled "Cast" (notably, it is currently "Cast and characters"), the descriptions are all about the character, not the cast (which seems a bit inconsistent). In reality, the section is all about the characters, not the cast. To the average person looking at this page, their reference will usually be the character by which they look up an entry is that enumeration (using the actor's name just confuses and makes that look-up more difficult). The section should probably follow the character-list format as outlined in the MOS section you cited above. The only time I see a cast-list format more appropriate is for skit shows like SNL, or shows where the characters are overshadowed by the actors. — al-Shimoni (talk) 09:06, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Use RS

Need RS (Reliable sources) for cites. IMDB is not considered one, per Wikipedia policy/guidelines. Have deleted IMDB cites.Parkwells (talk) 22:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Full name for Sanjeev?

Surely Sanjeev has a given name and surname like all the other characters? He was in seven episodes and has no last name, a pity. Parkwells (talk) 22:52, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

He was only ever referred to as Sanjeev. There are no sources for a surname. Had the series continued his name might have been revealed but we'll never know. Of course, he might have been like Penny from The Big Bang Theory, whose last name hasn't been revealed even after 111 episodes. --AussieLegend (talk) 06:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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