Talk:Parliament Hill

Request image of Robert Borden statue

With fingers freezing I was able to get a nice shot of the Borden statue today. No people around to get in the way. DGERobertson (talk) 00:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

"Crown Land"

To my knowledge, Parliament Hill is part of the unceded Algonquin Territory, which has never been ceded to the Crown by means of a treaty or otherwise and with regards to which negotiations between the Algonquin and the governments of Canada and Ontario are currently ongoing (http://www.aboriginalaffairs.gov.on.ca/english/negotiate/algonquin/algonquin.asp). Thus, it is not "crown land", right? I have made the appropriate edit but if somebody else has sources that confirm that this is indeed considered crown land, feel free to change it back and but leave the Algonquin aspect in there as well since it's important (and shows respect to acknowledge the traditional stewards of the shared territory). krueschan (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

It is crown land - however there is a land claim that has been in limbo for some time. see here (algonquins claim the whole Ottawa Valley -The Algonquin land claim covers a territory of 36,000 square kilometres (8.9 million acres) that fall within the Ontario portion of the Ottawa and Mattawa River watersheds)- but at no time has the government moved from its position that it is crown land. 90 percent of Canadian Territory has this type of land claim. Moxy (talk) 20:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Reference for Dominion Sculptor

I've added a reference for the title "Dominion Sculptor." It sounds archaic, but the title was never, "Chief Sculptor" as was previously indicated. The reference makes that clear. The reference is an article from Public Works & Government Services Canada's website - the department that officially employs the Dominion Sculptor. Thanks. --Charlie Inks (talk) 21:08, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Which one is right?

Which official name designated by the National Historic Site of Canada is right (based on the template explanation on the right side)? Is it

Parliament Buildings National Historic Site of Canada

or

Grounds of the Parliament Buildings National Historic Site of Canada

? Komitsuki (talk) 11:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

October 22 shootings

Please direct all edits regarding the October 22 shootings to 2014 Canadian Parliament Hill attack. --Natural R_X 15:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Parliament Hill/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Reidgreg (talk · contribs) 13:30, 31 May 2021 (UTC) Nominator: Aknell4 (talk · contribs)

Review to be forthcoming. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:30, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I went ahead and made some minor MOS edits to the article; if you disagree with that, feel free to revert and we can discuss as part of this review. I'm still working on the review but quickly spotted the lack of referencing in the tables at the end. I thought that I would bring that to your attention and give you a chance to work on it while I complete my review. Please only edit those sections at the end of the article until I finish my review. Thanks. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay, full review finished. I tried to be thorough, so there are a lot of little things to address. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Criterion

I'll update progress here as this proceeds.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Checked by multiple copyeditors

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review comments

Prose

• European traders, adventurers, and industrialists no need to link Europe.
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• which was answered with 298 submitted drawings. The entries were narrowed down to three This is a rather fine point. MOS:NUMNOTES makes an exception to MOS:SPELL09 for comparable values, recommending that they be in the same format. However, I don't feel it's a problem here and I suspect that there would be consensus for SPELL09 in this case.
  •  Done Changed the format. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• The entries were narrowed down to three, but the panel of judges could not decide on who came first or second. Since the subject of the first clause is the entries, I feel like the who should either be which or whose design.
  •  Done Tend to agree with you on that. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• I feel that the following sentence is too long: The Centre Block, departmental buildings, and a new residence for the governor general were each awarded separately, the team of Thomas Fuller and Chilion Jones, under the pseudonym of Semper Paratus (Always Ready), winning the prize for the first category with their Victorian High Gothic scheme of a formal, symmetrical front facing a quadrangle and a more rustic, picturesque back facing the escarpment overlooking the Ottawa River. Also, is it too much detail to include their pseudonyms for the contest? How about: The Centre Block, departmental buildings, and a new governor general's residence were each awarded separately. The first was awarded to the team of Thomas Fuller and Chilion Jones with their Victorian High Gothic scheme of a formal, symmetrical front facing a quadrangle and a more rustic, picturesque back facing the escarpment overlooking the Ottawa River.
  • Possibly modify the sentence following that above to match.
    •  Done Replaced the sentence. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Should we bother mentioning the governor general's residence in the competition, since it was not built due to cost overruns and would not have been built on Parliament Hill?
    •  Done I would say that we shouldn't, as the article doesn't talk about who won that competition, if a winner was even chosen. That part has been removed. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Public Works reported that $1,424,882.55 had been spent on the venture Do you think that might be too much precision for a summary? Perhaps "over $1.4 million" would be better? It's the scale of the figure (nearly triple the allocated budget) that's important.
  •  Done That works better. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Two years later, the unfinished site hosted a celebration of Queen Victoria's birthday, further cementing the area's position as the central place for national celebration. The article doesn't seem to mention any celebration at the site prior to this, unless you count the Prince of Wales laying the cornerstone. Suggest removing further (or perhaps including some mention of notable earlier national celebrations).
  •  Done Removed "further". --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• in commemoration of the Canadians who had lost their lives unlink Canadians
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• The British military gave a nine-pound naval cannon to the British army garrison stationed in Ottawa in 1854. It was purchased by the Canadian government in 1869 and fired on Parliament Hill for many years as the “Noonday Gun". This needs more paraphrasing; the underlined portions are the same as the source. Suggest: The British military allocated a nine-pound naval cannon to Ottawa's British army garrison in 1854. The Dominion of Canada purchased it in 1869 and fired it on Parliament Hill as the "Noonday Gun" for many years. (Found this story in Macleans from 1944, there are a couple paragraphs on "Old Chum" about halfway down, though they have a brought-bought typo.)
  •  Done Changed wording, added "Old Chum" citation. (I know you didn't mention it, but I changed the quotations around the phrase "Noonday Gun" to be compliant with MOS:QUOTEMARKS) --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
    • Ah, good catch with MOS:CURLY quotes. I'm wondering if maybe we should remove those quotation marks altogether since Noonday Gun is a self-explanatory proper name while "Old Chum" is more unexpected and probably a nickname. – Reidgreg (talk) 12:23, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
      •  Done Removed quotes around Noonday Gun. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
• The Queen's Diamond Jubilee was commemorated by a specially tinted window in the Centre Block on 6 February 2012 I feel like this should either be "was commemorated with" or "is commemorated by", possibly changing the structure of what follows in the latter case.
  •  Done Changed to "was commemorated with". --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• to bring the Parliament buildings to modern safety standards and address the deteriorated state of the current buildings Suggest "and to address their deteriorated state".
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• The Senate of Canada Building was renovated in 2019 to prepare for the Senate moving, and the West Block was completed in November 2018 before the House of Commons moved in. Would it be better to switch the order of these so that they are chronological?
  •  Done Tend to agree. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Caption View of Parliament Hill and the surrounding area from the air Suggest: Aerial view of Parliament Hill and surroundings
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• The 88,480-square-metre (952,391 sq ft) area Since we're talking about the grounds here, rather than, say, floorspace of the buildings, would it be better to state this in hectares/acres?
  •  Done Changed to hectares and reversed order. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
    •  Done Changed to hectares/acres. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Some overlinking of Louis-Philippe Hébert in the table. After first mention, could probably refer to him by surname only.
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Similarly, the statue of George-Étienne Cartier → the statue of Cartier
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Are some of the section headers maybe a little sentimental? Suggest: Development into a national heart → Construction and early use; Fire, rebuilding, and beyond → Fire, incidents and renovations; Early → Previous use of site
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Referencing & verifiability

• I'm going to first mention the memorial tables at the end. I know that some editors are a bit loose with referencing lists. I believe what's permissible unreferenced is to have a simple list where every list entry has its own article, and the list simply says that these things exist. But if the list makes statements about the entries, those statements need to be referenced just like anything else. Only the very last entry, War of 1812 Monument, is adequately referenced.

  I came across this: Statues/Grounds/Parliament Hill/Public Works. I haven't examined it but it looks promising. – Reidgreg (talk) 22:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

  The source looks fantastic and is from Public Works and Government Services Canada. I've incorporated it in the tables at the end. Many thanks for your help. I'm not sure whether the section is adequately cited or not now, but it is a lot better now. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Running into some verification problems. I'm sure everything is true, but GA criteria require citations for verifiability and I'm not finding everything in the cited sources. (Note: I have inserted the reference names you added.)

• ref name Bosc The Parliament Buildings and Grounds. Primary source, but not used for anything controversial. Used to cite 7 statements. I could not find the underlined portions in this source:
  • The south front of the property is demarcated by a Victorian high gothic wrought iron fence. Named the Wellington Wall, its centre Is it a fence or a wall, or a fence called a wall? https://www.historicplaces.ca/en/rep-reg/place-lieu.aspx?id=17422&pid=0 gives a good description.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • like the changing of the guard, or the annual Canada Day celebrations. To the sides of the buildings, the grounds are set in the English garden style, dotted with statues, memorials, and, at the northwest corner, a Carpenter Gothic structure called the Summer Gazebo, a 1995 reconstruction of an earlier gazebo, Summer House, built for the Speaker of the House of Commons in 1877 by Thomas Seaton Scott and demolished in 1956. The ceremonies might be generally verifiable. The architectural and landscape styles need to be sourced. The source calls the reconstruction the Summer Pavilion.
    •  Done Removed changing of the guards claim and shifted the House of Commons source to the right to encompass the Canada Day celebrations. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
      • I found a source https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/changing-of-the-guard-on-parliament-hill-cancelled-due-to-covid-19-1.4881936 for the changing of the guard as "a popular tradition".
      • Still need a source for the landscape/architecture styles: English garden style and Carpenter Gothic style.
        •  Done Removed styles and changed name of Summer Pavillion to be in line with the source. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Parliament Hill is a limestone outcrop with a gently sloping top that was originally covered in a primeval forest of beech and hemlock. The underlined part is covered by source pre, please add a citation to it after "top".
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • For hundreds of years, the hill served as a landmark on the Ottawa River for First Nations and, later, European traders, adventurers, and industrialists, to mark their journey to the interior of the continent. After Ottawa, then called Bytown, was founded, the builders of the Rideau Canal used the hill as a location for a military base (and hospital) The third paragraph of source pre is good for the first sentence, while the 7th paragraph of source ocitizen looks good for the last sentence (except for the hospital).
    •  Done Put the refs you mentioned and removed the hospital claim. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Two years later, the unfinished site hosted a celebration of Queen Victoria's birthday, further cementing the area's position as the central place for national celebration. The site was still incomplete when three of the British North American colonies (now the provinces of Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick) entered Confederation in 1867, with Ottawa remaining the capital of the new country. Within four years Manitoba, British Columbia, Prince Edward Island, and the North-West Territories (now Alberta, Saskatchewan, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut) were added and, along with the associated bureaucracy, the first three required representation be added in parliament. Thus, the offices of parliament spread to buildings beyond Parliament Hill even at that early date. Didn't find any of this in the source, it is also cited to "Who".
    •  Done Couldn't find any sources on it, so I removed it. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • I found this in parlhist1859, section The Expanding Country, and put it back into the article.
  • maintained by the National Capital Commission,
  • The Parliament Buildings are three edifices arranged around three sides of Parliament Hill's central lawn, the use and administration of the spaces within each building overseen by the speakers of each chamber of the legislature.
• ref name ocitizen Ottawa Citizen cites one statement
• ref name "pre" (pre-construction) Primary source, cites one statement:
  • In 1858, Queen Victoria selected Ottawa as the capital of the Province of Canada. Barrack Hill was chosen as the site for the new parliament buildings, given its prominence over both the town and the river, as well as the fact that it was already owned by the Crown. Could probably get away with Queen Victoria, it being readily verifiable that she was head of state and had final authority, so ultimate authority of the selection was hers. Found government ownership of the hill at the unnamed reference [1] which is archived at [2] Pick an appropriate name for the reference and add a citation, and move the pre citation up to before the underlined part.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name Who (who would design it) primary source used to cite six statements. The first three are good. Of the remainder:
  • $300,000 was allocated for the main building and $120,000 for each of the departmental buildings. Found this at https://web.archive.org/web/20110827040517/http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/1859-1916-03-eng.html
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
      • You used the ref named parlhist1859. This one is slightly different, with an extra -03 on the url. All it has is the proposed costs; it may have been meant to be transcluded onto parlhist1859 but ultimately wasn't.
        •  Done Changed citation. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Two years later, the unfinished site hosted a celebration of Queen Victoria's birthday, further cementing the area's position as the central place for national celebration.
    •  Done Removed. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • By 1876, the structures of Parliament Hill were finished, along with the surrounding fence and gates. However, the grounds had yet to be properly designed; The source says "In 1876, the Library was finally completed, as well as the landscaped grounds."
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• unnamed reference Ottawa becomes Canada's capital.
  • Ground was broken on 20 December 1859, and the first stones were laid on 16 April of the following year. Prince Albert Edward, Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII), laid the cornerstone of the Centre Block on 1 September. Not in source. What this does have is that "Queen Victoria chose Ottawa as the capital" (of the province of Canada). Suggest citing to https://web.archive.org/web/20110827040243/http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/1859-1916-eng.html which covers the first two sentences and Edward VII laying the cornerstone in 1860 – but this last date is absent from this source. The date can be found in the following source:
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Added ref History2021
• ref name History2021 History of the Hill Primary source. This looks like the current government-website version of some of the other smaller archived pages. If the information is all there, it might be worthwhile to consolidate the references and use this one in place of those others, to shorten the reflist.
  • This also has "Queen [Victoria] selects Ottawa [as the capital]" and the cornerstone on 1 September 1860.
  • The construction of Parliament Hill became the largest project undertaken in North America to that date. However, workers hit bedrock sooner than expected, necessitating blasting to complete the foundations, which the architects had altered to sit 5.2 metres (17 ft) deeper than originally planned. By early 1861, Public Works reported that $1,424,882.55 had been spent on the venture, leading to the site being closed in September and the unfinished structures covered in tarpaulins until 1863, when construction resumed following a commission of inquiry. Underlined passages not verified by source. I found all of it in the unnamed reference http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/1859-1916-eng.html Suggest adding this as a second citation to the end of the paragraph. However, these are both primary sources, and I would prefer a secondary reliable source for "the largest project undertaken in North America" since the government history-keepers might be biased there.
    •  Done Removed "the largest project undertaken in North America" and replaced citation. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Found a source for this, ref name Montgomery Feb. 03, 1916: When Canada's Parliament burned and added. I think it's based off the government websites, but RCI is removed enough to not be considered a primary source. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name rideauhallbook Rideau Hall. A good source, but I didn't like having to jump through hoops to access and navigate it.
  • In 1901 they were the site of both mourning for, and celebration of, Queen Victoria, when her death was mourned in official ceremonies in January of that year, and when, in late September, Victoria's grandson, Prince George, Duke of Cornwall (later King George V), dedicated the large statue that stands on the hill in the late Queen's honour. The underlined portions do not seem to be covered by the source, at least not among the pages mentioned in the citation. The statue or monument was in Ottawa, no mention of Parliament Hill that I spotted there, nothing about the January activities.
    •  Done Removed mourning sentence and referenced statue part to the citation in the table of memorials. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:34, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name historytowertour Peace Tower
• On 3 February 1916, a fire destroyed the Centre Block. Despite the ongoing war, Governor General Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught re-laid the original cornerstone on 1 September 1916; exactly fifty-six years after his brother, the future King Edward VII, had first set it. Eleven years later, the rebuilt Centre Block was completed and dedicated as the "Peace Tower", in commemoration of the Canadians who had lost their lives during the First World War. The source only talks about the Peace Tower. The phrasing above sounds like the entire Centre Block was dedicated as the Peace Tower. Suggest inserting "a new freestanding bell tower was" before dedicated. The underlined portion can be cited to reference https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/histoire-history/index-eng.html – note that this source says that the governor general was the grandson of Edward VII, so change that or find another source.
  •  Done Used this source, called parlhist1916: [3] --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
    • New source parlhist1916 is good for most of it but does not verify "On 3 February 1916, a fire destroyed the Centre Block". (It is good for "brother".)
      •  Done Added source parlhistfire. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 7 June 2021 (UTC)AGF
• ref name noondaygun dead link archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20140517151825/http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-dhp/nic-inm/sm-rm/mdsr-rdr-eng.asp?PID=3155
  • I found the updated government webpage at https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembrance/memorials/national-inventory-canadian-memorials/details/3155
    •  Done Changed link. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name baclac (bibliotheque/library archives Canada – Constitution Act) used once
  • Thereafter, the Hill hosted several significant events in Canadian history, including the first visit of the reigning Canadian sovereign—King George VI, with his consort, Queen Elizabeth—to his parliament, on 19 May 1939. A huge celebration on 8 May 1945, marked VE Day; the first raising of the country's new national flag took place on 15 February 1965; the centennial of Confederation was celebrated on 1 July 1967; and the Silver Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II was marked on 18 October 1977. The Queen revisited Parliament Hill on 17 April 1982, for the issuing of a royal proclamation of the enactment of the Constitution Act that year. Source only verifies the Constitution Act, the bulk of the paragraph needs to be cited.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • New reference worldtourcanenc Canadian Encyclopedia does not mention the 19 May date.
        •  Done Removed 19 May date. I'm sure it's true, but I haven't been able to find a source for it (even if it's looking me straight in the eye like one of the things I removed before). --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
    • New reference ocitizenveday Ottawa Citizen
    • New reference cbcflagarchive CBC AGF.
• ref name latimesgreyhound Los Angeles Times
  • In April 1989, a Greyhound Lines bus with 11 passengers on board travelling to New York City from Montreal was hijacked by an armed man and driven onto the lawn in front of the Centre Block. A standoff with police ensued and lasted eight hours; though three shots were fired, there were no injuries. The source says six hours.
    •  Done Named reference latimesgreyhound and changed time. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• unnamed reference CNN. This is a transcript of an interview with PM Paul Martin. I don't know that it's been fact-checked in any way. Used once:
  • Crowds marked the beginning of the third millennium with a large ceremony on the quadrangle, and the "largest single vigil" ever seen in the nation's capital took place in 2001, when on 14 September 2001, 100,000 people gathered on the main lawn to honour the victims of the September 11 attacks on the United States that year. The underlined portion isn't in the source. For the rest, I would prefer if there was a reliable secondary source.
    •  Done Removed underlined part and added CBC source for the rest. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • New unnamed reference CBC Indepth US–Canada relations
• ref name ggcawindow Governor General's Office used once.
  • The following year, Queen Elizabeth II's Golden Jubilee was marked on 13 October. The Queen's Diamond Jubilee was commemorated by a specially tinted window in the Centre Block on 6 February 2012, (Accession Day). The source says that the dedication ceremony was 7 February. The underlined portion needs a citation.
    •  Done Fixed citation error and removed Golden Jubilee sentence. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name ctvmounties CTV News used once:
  • On 22 October 2014, several shooting incidents occurred around Parliament Hill. After fatally shooting a Canadian Army soldier mounting the ceremonial guard at the National War Memorial, a gunman moved to the Centre Block of the parliament buildings. There, the shooter engaged in a firefight with Kevin Vickers, the Sergeant-at-Arms of the House of Commons, and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which ended when he was killed by RCMP Constable Curtis Barrett. Source does not mention the war memorial, or specifically state that Barrett killed the gunman. (see following)
    •  Done changed paragraph to one in "Expansions" --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• unnamed reference National Post no longer exists and has been pulled from archive.org. National Post may be defending its copyright. Used for the statement The gunman also injured one House of Commons constable, who was shot in the foot. which might not be that notable.
  • For the two above, I found some newer sources and will suggest a replacement under "Expansions" (below).
    •  Done changed paragraph to one in "Expansions" --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name renoinfo Follow the rehabilitation This is a primary source and the link goes to an index page with only general information; some of the specific information might be on other pages and reports linked from this page (they should themselves be linked). Cited for four passages:
  • Since 2002, an extensive $1 billion renovation and rehabilitation project has been underway throughout all the precinct's buildings to bring the Parliament buildings to modern safety standards and address the deteriorated state of the current buildings; work is not expected to be complete until after 2028. Not at source. I'm not sure where to find this information. I found some general information at https://web.archive.org/web/20130522203752if_/http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/collineduparlement-parliamenthill/batir-building/rest-colline-hill-eng.html but it's from 2013. It's going to be some work to put in all of these little citations... it'd be easier to have a reliable secondary source that could be used for all of it, but there may not be extensive writing on it until after the renovations are complete. Another way to go would be to make a tighter summary and avoid the details for now.
    •  Done Changed figure and added source --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • New source ocitizenreno Ottawa Citizen
  • The Wellington Building was completed in 2016, and the Sir John A. Macdonald Building was completed in 2015. Not at link. Found at subpages: https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/rehabilitation/wellington-eng.html and https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/rehabilitation/macdonald-eng.html
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The Centre Block and East Block are undergoing renovations, an architectural competition is being held for designs pertaining to the city block south of Wellington Street, and a new building, the Visitors Welcome Centre, is being built. Need https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/rehabilitation/est-east-eng.html to say that the East Block is undergoing renovation rather than planned for renovation. Source says the visitor's centre is a new building that will be expanded; I feel that should be rephrased and possibly use https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/rehabilitation/visiteurs-visitors-eng.html for better support.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • However, the government dropped this proposal and constructed more office space in Hull, Quebec, like the Terrasses de la Chaudière and Place du Portage instead. In 2021, this idea was revisited, with the Ministry of Public Services announcing a building contest for the block. Doesn't have the part about Hull. Could replace with https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/citeparlementaire-parliamentaryprecinct/rehabilitation/conception-design-eng.html which has the year and more details of the competition.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name senatereno Senate of Canada Building
  • The Senate of Canada Building was renovated in 2019 to prepare for the Senate moving Phrasing sounds like the renovations were conducted entirely within 2019. Source says that restoration began in 2014. Suggest: "was renovated by 2019" or similar rephrase.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name westblockreno West Block 
• ref name hillgrounds https://web.archive.org/web/20130522203826/http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/collineduparlement-parliamenthill/batir-building/terrains-grounds-eng.html – this is another index page, change to https://web.archive.org/web/20130522231758/http://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/collineduparlement-parliamenthill/batir-building/trrns-grnds-eng.html
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name parliamentofcanadaact Parliament of Canada Act cites two statements, both checked. (Nice use of cite canlaw!) There's also a third statement to sections 80 (1–2) [instead of 80 (1)], also good.
• ref name parlhist1859 Construction, 1859-1916
• ref name buildingthefuturecommons Building the Future
  • The main outdoor area of The Hill is the quadrangle, formed by the arrangement of the parliament and departmental buildings on the site, and laid out in a formal garden fashion. This expanse is the site of major celebrations, demonstrations, and traditional shows, Good for the celebrations and demonstrations, the expanse is mentioned, but I think we should have "quadrangle" and "formal garden" sourced somewhere in the article. (Page 48 calls the quadrangle the "formal forecourt" which is close.)
    •  Done Removed "formal garden" part, wasn't able to find a source for it. Changed quadrangle to formal forecourt. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name buildingthefuturecommons (new name) The next two references seem to make improper use of {{harvnb|House of Commons|1999}} author–date citation, which expects there to be a citation following the reflist to which their link can be anchored. Without reorganizing the reflist, I think the easiest thing to do for now would be to use a named reference with {{rp}} for inline page numbers.
  •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Though Parliament Hill remains the heart of the parliamentary precinct, expansion beyond the bounded area described above began in 1884, with the construction of the Langevin Block across Wellington Street. A picture caption says the Langevin Block was built in the 1880s, so can change: in 1884 → in the 1880s from this source, or add another source which specifies the year.
    •  Done Changed to "in the 1880s" --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• two unnamed references to Canadian Register of Historic Places (CHRP) – [4] [5] – which support one statement. 
  • Good. Will mention that the Parliament Grounds source could possibly be used to cite info on the Wellington Wall, formal gardens, some of the statuary, etc.
• ref name commonsarchitecture History, Arts and Architecture
  • The Centre Block has the Senate and Commons chambers, and is fronted by the Peace Tower on the south facade, with the Library of Parliament at the building's rear. The East and West Blocks each contain ministers' and senators' offices, as well as meeting rooms and other administrative spaces. The buildings' unifying architecture style is Gothic Revival. Source does not support underlined portion.
    •  Done Added references for the underlined parts and updated info. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • new reference abouteastblock PWGSC Explore the East Block Good for that sentence. I copied another citation for the sentence preceding it.
• Lead – I left the lead for last. There are two sourcing issues:
  • The figure of 3 million annual visitors does not appear in the body of the article and needs a citation.
    •  Done Removed --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
      • Found a source: CTV News via Canadian Press from 2007. (More recent figures could be skewed due to the pandemic and/or renovations.) Restored statement and added source.
  • The $1 billion renovation figure needs to be cited in the body
    •  Done Changed figure and added source --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• Infobox
  • For the |built= parameter, I feel this should be the original construction of 1859–1876.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
• ref name macleansbackstage good

Tables (referencing and prose comments)

• ref name statuegeneralsource PWGSC Explore the statues, monuments and memorials and statuespwgsc archivefrom 2013 with map for locations. A few notes follow:
  • Most of the statues on Parliament Hill are arranged behind the three parliamentary buildings, with one outside of the main fence. Can we expand on this a bit? Suggest: More than 20 bronze statues are on the grounds, commemorating important figures in the country's history. Most are arranged in the gardens behind the three parliamentary buildings, with one outside of the main fence. Cite to statuegeneralsource. Perhaps add a footnote that some were moved off the grounds during renovations if you feel that's a concern.
    •  Done Changed sentence to suggested and added a footnote. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Statue of Queen Victoria Located at the north-west corner between the West and Centre Blocks, the statue of the country's first monarch was sculpted by Hébert in 1900, and dedicated by Prince George, Duke of Cornwall and York, in 1901. Should its first display in Paris be mentioned? Consider: Located at the north-west corner between the West and Centre Blocks, the statue of the country's first monarch was sculpted by Hébert and first displayed at the 1900 Paris Exposition before being moved to Ottawa and dedicated by Prince George, Duke of Cornwall and York in 1901.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I tried combining the descriptions for the statues of George Brown and D'Arcy McGee; feel free to revert.
    • Looks good. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs)
  • Borden Frances Loring cast this likeness for the 1957 session of parliament opened by Queen Elizabeth II; it stands at the southwest corner of Parliament Hill. Source does not mention that the queen opened parliament. I sourced it to senroyals https://sencanada.ca/en/sencaplus/how-why/young-royals-have-long-ties-to-canada/ (it mentions some other royal visits). Can link to 23rd Canadian Parliament if you wish.
    •  Done Linked to 23rd Canadian Parliament. Many thanks for the citation. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • In 1989, Danek Mozdzenski was commissioned to form this monument that rests immediately north of the West Block. The sources say that it was completed in 1989, not commissioned that year.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The Famous Five. I think we should include the title of the monument: This monument, entitled Women are Persons!, ...
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Question: Is the reconstructed summer gazebo also the pavilion of the Police Memorial? The pictures look very similar.
    • Bosc says that the Gazebo was turned into a memorial for police officers killed in the line of duty, but I wasn't able to track down a source that says that the gazebo is the Police Memorial. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Breadth & focus

Good. This article is an overarching topic for which many sub-topics are notable and have their own articles. This should be kept in mind for the overall level of detail, providing enough detail to give context to understand the overall topic while more detail can be given in the articles on the subtopics. Some of the other articles include: Parliament of Canada, Parliamentary Protective Service, Centre Block, East Block, West Block, Victoria Tower, Peace Tower, 2014 shootings at Parliament Hill, Ottawa, House of Commons of Canada, Senate of Canada, Senate of Canada Building, Queen's Gates, National Capital Region (Canada), Library of Parliament, Centennial Flame, Canadian Police Memorium, Victoria Tower Bell, and War of 1812 Monument; and less directly Sir John A. Macdonald Building, Wellington Building, Colonel By Valley, Wellington Street, Ottawa, Supreme Court of Canada, Langevin Block, Confederation Building (Ottawa), Justice Building, and Canada Day. Some of the sources used for this article might be useful for expanding some of these other articles.

Neutrality

Good (noted sentimentality of some section headers above)

Stability

No edit warring; expect there to be some updating with the ongoing renovations.

Media

Well supported by media: 9 images in main article plus another 35 images in tables. Once licensing issue:

• File:John G. Diefenbaker.jpg needs attention to its licence, or remove from article.
  •  Done Image has been changed to a public domain one. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Suggested expansions

• For the Parliament Hill shooting paragraph, suggest:
  • On 22 October 2014, shooting incidents occurred around Parliament Hill. After fatally shooting a Canadian Army soldier stationed as a ceremonial guard at the National War Memorial, a gunman entered the Centre Block of the parliament buildings. There, the shooter engaged in a firefight with Kevin Vickers, the Sergeant-at-Arms of the House of Commons, and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which ended when he was killed by Vickers and RCMP Constable Curtis Barrett. Following the incidents, the Parliamentary Protective Service was created to integrate the House of Commons and Senate security forces with RCMP patrols of the grounds.
  • According to the two sources, I've written that both Vickers and Barrett killed the gunman. Autopsy determined there had been two instantly fatal shots; one was attributed to Barrett while the other is unspecified/unknown.
    •  Done Many thanks. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
• Found some sources for the national police memorial. Unfortunately, I don't think any of these mention the "carpenter gothic" style, but they're good for some other points.
  • barnespavilion Dedication to Duty at Google Books p. 213. It says that the Speaker's Summer Pavilion (1877–1956) was specifically reconstructed for the memorial, as a place for quiet reflection.
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 19:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
  • rcmppavilion http://www.rcmpveteransvancouver.com/canadian-police-peace-officers-memorial/ quotes the official history of the pavilion from a bronze plaque: This summer pavilion originally built in 1877 by Public Works Canada under the direction of the Chief Architect, Thomas Seaton Scott, and stood on this side until it was demolished in 1956. It was rebuilt in 1992 by Public Works and Government Services Canada with funding from the Canadian Police Association and The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police. [paragraph break] Dedicated as a National Police Memorial on March 22, 1994, the pavilion is a gift to the people of Canada from the Canadian Police Officers in memory of their fallen comrades. There appears to be a side/site typo, so make sure the dates are correct from other sources.
    •  Done Dates are consistent with other sources. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 21:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
  • ridepavilion http://policeridetoremember.com/the-memorial-book-the-pavilion-and-the-memorial-stone talks about the history of the memorial, which had names first inscribed on a granite slab, then two other pieces of granite, and then added glass panels around the perimeter wall. (This helps explain some of the pictures – recent news about names being added usually show the glass panels.)
    •  Done --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 22:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

References

Other areas to improve

Although not part of the GA criteria, here are some other areas you might consider for improvement (I'd leave these until after the review):

Reviewers get much more fussy about reference formatting at the FA level.

• I'd suggest naming all the references, with some sort of consistent and unambiguous style. It's not needed, but it makes discussing them a lot easier, especially if the article is undergoing editing which can cause the displayed reference numbers in the article to change.
  •  Done Named all refs. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 02:07, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
• The source History of the Hill looks like the current/updated government-website version of some of the other smaller archived pages. If the information is all there, it might be worthwhile to consolidate the references and use this one in place of those others, to shorten the reflist and make checking easier.
• Some other references could be consolidated, like House of Commons 1999 and the Parliament of Canada Act.
  •  Done Consolidated. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
• I noticed that the documentation for Template:CRHP (Canadian Register of Historic Places) states that it is intended for use in the External links section rather than for references. I would suggest at some point that you put these in a regular {{cite web}} template for the references with CRHP in the External links. Even though they link to the same place, using the citation template for the reference will allow for archiving and some other bot-related tasks. I think this is fine for GA, the link provides verifiability, but for FA they'd want a proper citation template.
  •  Done Changed to {{cite web}}. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

General discussion

This is a lot, but I think it's doable. Please let me know if you have any questions, or when you're finished making changes. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: I think I made all the changes you suggested. Please let me know if I missed anything or if there is anything else to change. Thanks, Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

I've done some preliminary checking and added the new reference names above, will get to work on re-checking verifiability today. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, checked your changes and reviewed the statuary tables. I've tried to mark anything that needs attention with a ? mark. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I think I got everything. As for the gazebo, I just said that the gazebo was turned into a memorial for police officers killed in the line of duty without saying it is the police memorial as I couldn't find a source saying that it was definitely the police memorial. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I did a little additional copyedit, looks good. I also found three potential sources for the police memorial, under suggested expansions above. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

I've added the 3 refs you mentioned into the article. Many thanks. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 22:28, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Great, all good! Thanks for your patience throughout the review process! Passed GA! – Reidgreg (talk) 11:42, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

P.S.: Without meaning to get ahead of the review, there has been some interest in putting together a Canada Day DYK set for July 1. Discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board § DYK for Canada Day.

@Reidgreg: I'd be happy to put this on DYK. Given that I can only apply for DYK after this passes GA, I'll wait for it to pass, unless you're waiting to pass this until Canada Day. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 08:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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Aerial view of Parliament Hill

• ... that the site of Parliament Hill (pictured) was previously called Barrack Hill and had been intended for development as a major military base? Source: Ottawa Citizen "a strategic hill overlooking the Ottawa River was selected to be the site of the Parliament buildings", "For Bytown [now Ottawa] he called for a fortress stretching almost a kilometre from the Ottawa River ... covering what was then known as Barrack Hill and the site of a small military outpost." and "Parliament Hill, with its gently sloping banks to the south, was called a “glacis” positioned in front of the main trench".
  • ALT1:... that Parliament Hill (pictured) was originally designed for the Province of Canada and became inadequate for the bureaucracy of the Dominion of Canada, which was founded during its construction? Source: Public Works and Government Services Canada (archived) "[in 1866] the parliament of the United Province of Canada sat in the new building", "On the 1st of July 1867, the Dominion of Canada was born with a federal government in Ottawa ... The parliament buildings weren't even finished before they were suddenly made the seat of government for a much larger area", "[by 1871] The buildings ... were too small!" and "In 1876, the Library was finally completed, as well as the landscaped grounds."
  • ALT2:... that Parliament Hill (pictured) is undergoing an extensive renovation and rehabilitation project while continuing to serve as the seat of Canada's government? Source: Ottawa Citizen "Public Works and Government Services Canada is on time and on budget for its massive $3-billion, 20-year-project to rebuild the Parliament buildings" and "The West Block was shut down in 2011 ... When it re-opens in 2017, the House of Commons will meet there and the Senate will meet in the to-be-renovated Government Conference Centre across from the Chateau Laurier while Centre Block gets its multi-year refit."
  • ALT3:... that Canada's Parliament Hill (pictured) was the largest construction project undertaken in North America to that time? Sources: Radio Canada International "it was the largest construction project in all of North America". Public Works and Government Services Canada (archived) "Nothing this big had ever been done in North America and it was large even by European standards."
    • ALT3a:... that Canada's Parliament Hill (pictured) was the largest project undertaken in North America at the time of its construction?

• Reviewed: Waived for first nom for Aknell4 QPQ check
• Comment: Requesting for 1 July, Canada Day, or close to it... looking like "Canada week"

Improved to Good Article status by Aknell4 (talk) and Reidgreg (talk). Nominated by Aknell4 (talk) at 14:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Substantial word-for-word (or even sentence-for-sentence) copying detected from a Wordpress philatelist source: here - needs writing the stuff in your own words. WP:BACKWARDSCOPY - false positive - plagiarism check cleared.

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article has been newly given a good article status (my congratulations), and is pretty long and very easily legible. Sourcing is great, the tone is neutral. However, the source check revealed copy-pasting - something should be done with it. Once this is changed, I have no objections to promote the nomination. As for the preferred hook, the original proposal is what suits me best; ALT3 could also be very fine (even better for me, personally) if you precise that the fact held true at the time the Parliament Hill complex was built. Per request of nominator, QPQ is waived. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your review! As listed on the article's talk page, the Wordpress source copied the article, not the other way around. It's in a {{backwardscopy}} template on the talk page as per WP:BACKWARDSCOPY. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 02:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, indeed, I haven't noticed the warning about the article on the talk page (I was only looking at the main article space). In that case, for me, the hook has successfully cleared all steps, and, as I said, the main option is the one I prefer most. You might want to wait for other comments. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 03:20, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

ALT0 is my preferred as well. Given that 1 July already has enough Canada-related hooks scheduled for then, I would request the closest date after then that's possible. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 13:08, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Improving the map

Hey all, the map in the Grounds and name section is, frankly, not ideal. It's very difficult to distinguish buildings and landmarks, it doesn't scale well on mobile, and it uses a custom template that's used in only one other article. Would anyone be up for creating a better map, whether that's with an image, {{Maplink}}, Wikidata:Map data, or otherwise? Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 07:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree that the map isn't ideal. Given that I brought this article to GA with the help of Reidgreg, I will try to make it use Wikidata:Map data. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 13:43, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

I've added Map data, however on its own the geoshapes aren't showing up. It's only when you enlarge the map. Any ideas on how to fix this? --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 17:00, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Fixing a typo somehow fixed the issue. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 17:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Palestinian protests section, planned protest this December 2023

I added a sentence at the end of the section about a planned protest for Palestine to have a ceasefire, but I couldn't find an online source. The source I have is physical fliers with information about the protest 2001:1970:55E8:7F00:0:0:0:9EF8 (talk) 16:19, 25 December 2023 (UTC)