Talk:Parliament of Albania

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A new picture of the renovation needs to be included, and also the plans of a new built parlement! --Vinie007 20:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved by rough consensus. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 04:58, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Kuvendi i Shqipërisë → People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania – per WP:COMMONNAME and Wikipedia:USEENGLISH

• "People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania" -Llc - 2,550 hits
• "Kuvendi i Shqipërisë" -Llc - 9 hits

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:02, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

• Move to Parliament of Albania. That's how the name is given on their Web site. If you deghost, the name proposed by the nom gets only 35 results. Why "republic"? The article goes back to 1912. Kauffner (talk) 14:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. According to the WP:COMMONNAME we should use "the most common name for a subject, as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources". Parliament of Albania has only 596 hits on GS. I am not sure what does exactly mean deghosting and know to do it. The article goes back to 1912 to describe the history of this assembly, assembly of the Republic of Albania. Will you please be so kind to compare deghosted search results of Parliament of Albania and People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I get 35 deghosted hits for "People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania", 37 for "Parliament of Albania". The "Republic of Albania" was established in 1991. So if the article includes pre-1991 material, just plain "Albania" is preferable regardless of how Googling comes out. Kauffner (talk) 17:34, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for deghosting GS results. (I would really appreciate if you can send me some links with instructions how to do it myself in future.) The number of the GS hits is obviously very close. Since GS hits are not the ultimate guide when deciding the titles of the articles, according to the below comment, I will also try to argument my proposal on the basis of logic. This is article about the Assembly of the Republic of Albania. This assembly was created after first democratic elections in Albania in 1992. This assembly has different structure, number of members, statute, bodies.... everything is different comparing to the assemblies of the preceding states of the Republic of Albania. Therefore each of the preceding assemblies are notable for themselves and deserves its own article with appropriate name.

Based on the above presented rationale, I agree that Albanian Parliament should lead to the existing assembly (which is here at this moment and can be done by redirecting), but the article title should be unambiguous according to the Wikipedia:Official names. That is the name I proposed (People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania). Take Russia for example. There were many Russian Parliaments. Each of them have its own article (Russian Provisional Government, All-Russian Congress of Soviets, Supreme Soviet of Russia and Federal Assembly of Russia. The Parliament of Russia redirects to existing assembly, the Federal Assembly of Russia which article has unambiguous name.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:38, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

"Albanian Parliament" gets 378 deghosted hits, while "Albanian People's Assembly gets 67. So "parliament" seems to be both common and official. The "X of country" format is a Wiki style. As far as how you deghost, there are numbers along the bottom of the search results page. Click the highest one, the one on the right. Do this repeatedly until you get to the last result. Kauffner (talk) 00:51, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the explanation about deghosting.

Some of deghosted results for Albanian parliament refer to Kosovo Albanian parliament or to some parliaments in Albania which preceded the parliament which is subject of this article.

There are many parliaments that do not have "X of country" format, like: General Council (Andorra), National Assembly of Armenia, National Assembly of Azerbaijan, National Assembly of Belarus, Belgian Federal Parliament, Parliamentary Assembly of Bosnia and Herzegovina, National Assembly of Bulgaria, House of Representatives of Cyprus, Folketing in Denmark, Riigikogu of Estonia, Hellenic Parliament, National Assembly of Hungary, Althing of Iceland, Oireachtas of Ireland, Saeima of Latvia, Landtag of Liechtenstein National Council of the Slovak Republic, Federal Assembly of Russia, Supreme People's Assembly of North Korea... Though, each of them does have redirection "X of country" which leads to them.

I still believe that article about this parliament should have unambiguous name that I proposed per Wikipedia:Official names and that Parliament of Albania should redirect to it.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:38, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

• Move back to Parliament of Albania. The common names of the countries are preferred and for modern subjects we don't use google books as the ultimate guide when deciding their titles. That being said even if google books had such importance its results regarding the People's Assembly of the Republic of Albania aren't 2.550 but 33, while Parliament of Albania's are 48 --— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 16:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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