Talk:Dáil constituencies

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Surely the first paragraph should read 43, not 42 constituencies?

Referring to constituencies that are to receive increased numbers of deputies is somewhat misleading, as they have had boundary changes as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.131.110.118 (talk) 11:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Typography: dashes not spaces

In the next few hours, I intend to change the names of compass-point constituencies to the correct versions, namely those in the relevant legislation (e.g. the Electoral (Amendment) Act 2009) and the Constituency Commission reports (e.g. the 2007 report). For example, "Cork North Central" will now read "Cork North-Central". This will involve several page moves. AtSwimTwoBirds (talk) 14:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

In that case, will you please use – (ndash) not - (hypen) so as to be consistent with existing constituencies, e.g. Cavan–Monaghan (Dáil Éireann constituency). So it will be Cork North–Central. Snappy (talk) 18:24, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Good point. While we're being precise, is ndash itself correct? A dash is certainly correct for Canadian ridings, but I haven't seen a specific distinction in Irish constituencies. It looks like a smaller dash that the one you used, though I am not an expert. AtSwimTwoBirds (talk) 21:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

My reading of WP:MOS is that it is correct. Is the Irish Statute Book website the definitive guide? The only way to know for sure would be to look at the hard copy of the statute, if they still print them. Snappy (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

I have moved one article Cork North–Central (Dáil Éireann constituency) as a trial run. Snappy (talk) 19:27, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Clean up Required

The whole article is confusing for the reader. The article should just display the current constituencies and the number of seats are on offer for each constituency. There is no reason why the previous 2011 constituencies should be displayed, this should be in another article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:25C0:380:D5DD:9643:F7C1:B331 (talk) 18:43, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Sortable Table

Can someone make the table of constituencies sortable by how many seats and by population? DiscoDavis69 (talk) 10:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

2017 Changes to Dublin Central (and bordering) constituency(s)

As of summer 2017, boundaries have (yet again) been redrawn between Dublin Central/Dublin North West/Dublin Bay North, resulting in the shuffling of some areas. I'm not sure of the specifics, and not sure where one would find a source, but yeah, you're gonna want to look in to this and do some updating. Possibly in other constituencies too. 37.228.246.133 (talk) 12:09, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

At this moment, it is just a proposal.[1]. The Banner talk 18:00, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I seen the report but before changes are made there needs to to be an Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Act passed by the Oireachtas to specify changes to boundaries, just as occurred previously — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.1.202.203 (talk) 18:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 23 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: moved. There is consensus to move the page back to Dáil constituencies. (page mover nac) The editor whose username is Z0 11:23, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

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Parliamentary constituencies in the Republic of Ireland → Dáil constituencies in the Republic of Ireland – D of WP:BRD. (B here and R here) My grounds are:

• WP:COMMONNAME; in Ireland "Dáil" is common name, "Dáil Éireann" is formal name, "Parliament" is not used except when explaining to forgeigners
• "Parliamentary" is too broad, as it would include both Category:Seanad constituencies (The Oireachtas or Parliament is bicameral, comprising Dáil and Seanad) and Category:European Parliament constituencies in the Republic of Ireland

The revert comment was "reverting undiscussed, controversial move; see Talk:Athlone–Longford (Dáil Éireann constituency), and note relevant ARBCOM remedies"; to which my response is:

• That discussion is about "Dáil Éireann" vs "Dáil"; nobody favours "parliament[ary]"; I would still oppose Dáil Éireann constituencies in the Republic of Ireland per WP:COMMONNAME, but it's much better than "Parliamentary"
• What ARBCOM remedies? jnestorius^(talk) 09:23, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

What was wrong with the title Dáil constituencies? The equivalent for Germany is List of Bundestag constituencies. I'd be happy to debate the merits of including "List of …" or not (I generally prefer not to), but the German one is a good analogy. There's only one Bundestag, as there's only one Dáil. So calling it by the name of the house avoids the term "parliamentary", which for a number of reasons might seem out of place, and is a more concise title by avoiding the need for specifying the country. –Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:59, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

• Support move back to Dáil constituencies, 'in the Republic of Ireland' not needed here. Spleodrach (talk) 12:48, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Ooh, that's better. It's shorter, matches Category:Dáil constituencies, and accommodates Category:Dáil Éireann constituencies in Northern Ireland (historic). Do we need to start the poll again? jnestorius^(talk) 13:26, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
• Strong support, especially the shorter Dáil constituencies, absolutely no need for "in the RoI." Respects WP:COMMONNAME, and is clear and unambiguous. In fact, as noted above, Parliamentary is factually wrong, and creates ambiguity, as the Seanad is parliamentary too.SeoR (talk) 13:48, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support for Dáil constituencies as per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. The "in the Republic of Ireland" bit seems redundant if "Dáil" is already in use in the title, as no other "Dáil" exists. Impru20^talk 15:58, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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Why go back to 1992?

This is in relation to a revert @Dekimasu made on a recent change of mine (I should added that I had made other changes in that edit besides removing the older constituencies). The note in the edit said that I was making it more difficult to find. Not really, each one is only a link away. When this page was started, more than a decade ago, they were all relatively recent elections and constituency boundaries. But what limiting principle is there? If it goes back to 1992, why not back to 1922, or 1918? List of United Kingdom Parliament constituencies lists only the current ones, though I admit with far more, the page would be enormous in that case. The boundaries change after every census, this page will eventually just get too long, whereas the information is easily accessible through the links to each piece of legislation. Perhaps we could copy the table of legislation on Historic Dáil constituencies if needed, although I'd argue they serve separate audiences. There's the user interested in what the current boundaries are, from a current affairs point of view, and there are those who want to go back over past constituencies because of a focus on electoral history. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 10:46, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

If there is a simple way to merge all of that information so that it is retained in full into List of historic Dáil constituencies, or whatever that ends up being named, that seems like it would be fine. (You've renamed it from a "List of..." title to one that's not categorized as a list, but it's still a list at this time. Why did that happen? It still fits under Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists). Ideally this information would be as complete as possible; having incomplete information is a reason to write more instead of less. Dekimasuよ! 17:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

The separate Historic Dáil constituencies page covers all constituencies aside, and including them on this page amounts to a form of duplication. It surely makes sense then to restrict this to current and future constituencies. Otherwise writing more, as you suggest, amounts to duplication of the information on the pages. I'd suggest that as soon as the 32nd Dáil is dissolved, the current constituencies section for the 32nd Dáil be removed, so that only 33rd Dáil constituencies appear on this page, and that this become a standard rule into the future. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 08:51, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure much hangs on whether we call the pair of articles Dáil constituencies and Historic Dáil constituencies, or List of Dáil constituencies and List of Historic Dáil constituencies. I'd prefer the former, as it's more concise, and the articles are more than just the list, particularly in the case of current constituencies; to quote from WP:LISTNAME, "Set index articles do not need to be titled with list of unless there is also another article or a disambiguation page using that title". To pick a random list article, President of the United Nations Security Council is essentially a list article. On the other hand, List of Presidents of the United States is needed as its title, because there is a President of the United States article, and it would be foolish to merge them. But the articles should have the same function whether prefaced "List of …" or not. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:19, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

This is not a set index article, though; that would be something implausible like "List of constituencies named Dáil" in this case. This is a more usual list article in most regards (it has "constituent" elements in both senses of the term). List articles do contain more than just lists. Dekimasuよ! 15:05, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Dekimasu: Given the latest addition of the summary of recent changes to Historic Dáil constituencies, do you think it's fair enough to remove the information from this page. The further summaries can be developed on that page. —Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that seems fine. Dekimasuよ! 15:05, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Update needed

Wexford wicklow is not listed 212.129.83.135 (talk) 15:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

See under "Proposed constituencies" and Wicklow–Wexford (Dáil constituency). The Banner talk 16:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)