Talk:Parmigiano dialect

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Parmigiano dialect Mike Cline (talk) 13:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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Parmigiano language → Parmigiano dialect – Such sources as exist on this subject call it a dialect, not a language. Relisted for further input. Jafeluv (talk) 09:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

- Biruitorul ^Talk 16:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Please provide such sources. mgSH 22:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Fine, although it was you yourself who added them to the article: this calls it a dialect, while this and this suggest it's an alternate name for the Emilian languages. No source has been presented calling it a language. - Biruitorul ^Talk 22:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Source 1: I'd be careful with the Italian usage of dialetto. Regional languages are often called referred to as dialects for social reasons, but are structurally very different to Italian. That source calls it a lingua "language" too. Sources 2 & 3: Source 2 specifically mentions Emilian as a "group of languages", implying Parmigiano is a language in its own right. Its place in the alternative name entries of Sources 2 & 3 is probably more to do with the rigid fields of the forms than anything else. One organisation has only recently accepted that Emilian and Romagnol are different enough to be considered separate languages, so we had the situation where Emilian was considered a dialect (in the English sense of the word)! mgSH 09:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• Support. All of 2 Google Scholar hits for dialect, vs. 0 for language. One pdf is available online. "Comparison of Gender in French and Italian: A Historical Perspective", p. 19: "The Italian word, however, was taken from the Parmigiano dialect's etate, which derived directly from aetatem, the feminine accusative form of aetas." Google Books search for "Parmigiano+dialect" gives 4 results vs. 0 for language. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ah, missed this. Fair enough if you've come to this 2-man consensus, but shouldn't this at least be named Parmigiano Emilian or Parmesan Emilian in line with the likes of Australian English, Canadian French and African Portuguese? mgSH 12:49, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 02 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 01:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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Parmigiano dialect → Parmesan dialect – Anglicized name. – Article editor (talk) 22:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 19:51, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:05, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

• @Article editor:: How much do linguists use each of these 2 names? Google search would be swamped in references to Parmesan cheese. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:07, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose the name for the dialect is usually Parmigiano. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. I think most people would wonder why cheese was speaking! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:02, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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