Talk:Pat McCrory
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Wikipietime in topic American Swiss Foundation
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SunCrow's disputed edits
editPer WP:BRD, I have reverted edits by SunCrow which fail to reflect the cited reliable sources and bizarrely claim that gender identity is a "nebulous concept" - that's not what sources say. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:29, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- There is nothing nebulous about the term. Furthermore, it's absolutely essential to mention transgender individuals in the context of the bathroom bills (as shown by all RS coverage on the issue), even if SunCrow refuses to recognize their existence. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:NPOV, I continue to object to the slanted language contending that HB2 "prevent[ed] transgender people who have not altered their birth certificates from using the restroom consistent with their gender identity". That entire clause should be removed, and the sentence should simply read, "It declared that in government buildings, individuals may use only the restrooms that correspond to the sex on their respective birth certificates". Also, no one said anything about not recognizing anyone's existence. Finally, given the fact that there are apparently now 54 different gender identities (see https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/gender-identity-terms), I seem to be on very firm ground pointing out that gender identity is a nebulous concept. SunCrow (talk) 04:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- An article which discusses and defines 54 different terms related to gender identity does not support your claim that "there are 54 different gender identities." Please don't misrepresent sources. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 04:34, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- You're absolutely right, NorthBySouthBaranof. A closer review of the source shows that it lists a total of 41 different gender identities, not 54. I was off by 13. Shame on me. I will now proceed to punish myself by (a) eating only vegan food for a week; and (b) watching Rachel Maddow on a nightly basis until my head explodes. SunCrow (talk) 17:05, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Gender identity is a term that has been defined by demographers and used in the collection of national census data. I'm quite confident that it is less "nebulous" than many concepts you use on a daily basis. Newimpartial (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Stop bothering me. I'm busy with my self-imposed penance. Binge-watching Rachel Maddow right now. My head hasn't exploded yet, but I feel the pressure building... SunCrow (talk) 19:02, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Gender identity is a term that has been defined by demographers and used in the collection of national census data. I'm quite confident that it is less "nebulous" than many concepts you use on a daily basis. Newimpartial (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- You're absolutely right, NorthBySouthBaranof. A closer review of the source shows that it lists a total of 41 different gender identities, not 54. I was off by 13. Shame on me. I will now proceed to punish myself by (a) eating only vegan food for a week; and (b) watching Rachel Maddow on a nightly basis until my head explodes. SunCrow (talk) 17:05, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- An article which discusses and defines 54 different terms related to gender identity does not support your claim that "there are 54 different gender identities." Please don't misrepresent sources. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 04:34, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:NPOV, I continue to object to the slanted language contending that HB2 "prevent[ed] transgender people who have not altered their birth certificates from using the restroom consistent with their gender identity". That entire clause should be removed, and the sentence should simply read, "It declared that in government buildings, individuals may use only the restrooms that correspond to the sex on their respective birth certificates". Also, no one said anything about not recognizing anyone's existence. Finally, given the fact that there are apparently now 54 different gender identities (see https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/gender-identity-terms), I seem to be on very firm ground pointing out that gender identity is a nebulous concept. SunCrow (talk) 04:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
American Swiss Foundation
editWho removed from article? https://www.americanswiss.org/members/alumni-in-leadership-positions/ Wikipietime (talk) 14:50, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Alumni, of Foundation, in Leadership Positions, per ASF website Wikipietime (talk) 14:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
McCrory is alumni Wikipietime (talk) 14:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)