Talk:Patpong

Regarding [1]: I am glad that you love my work, yet I do not appreciate being insulted by having my edits publicly called "half-legit and half-insulting". At the very least, I demand an explanation on the Talk page if any of my edits are reverted.

Regarding the issue at hand: transwoman is not the same as kathoey; it is clearly a superordinate concept and linking to it in parentheses is both misleading and superfluous as the kathoey already provides the correct definition. AxelBoldt 19:53, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

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Regarding [2]: I read the claim about Patpong and Miss Saigon in "As Thai Sex Trade Increases, So Do Abuses", The New York Times, Oct 6 1986 and confirmed it on http://www.misssaigontour.com/show.htm. Maybe the Patpong scene is only in the London version of the musical and not in the Broadway version? AxelBoldt 22:06, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Location information removal

The geographical coordinates were removed twice, the second time [3] with the comment "yet another stupid fetish by people with no real contribution to make". I do not appreciate the language nor the attitude expressed with these words. The location information is

• correct and verifiable,
• useful (to find the place with a GPS device in the real world, and to view air photos and maps via our automatic geographic coordinate links),
• and obviously relevant,

and therefore stays in the article. AxelBoldt 16:40, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I stand by my comment and by my policy of deleting useless factoids from all articles on my watchlist. It is not the function of an encyclopaedia to help people navigate GPS devices. Adam 04:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To me, it is basic courtesy: if you document a geographical landmark, first of all you have to inform the readers where the landmark is. This is a "factoid" just like the exact birthdate of Alexander Hamilton is a "factoid". And it is indeed the function of an encyclopedia to state these factoids.

So far you haven't presented any evidence of "uselessness". I have specifically mentioned three use cases: GPS navigation, air photos, maps. I assume you don't use a GPS device. For those people that do, this information is clearly relevant and useful. But I can also give a use case for a scientist like yourself: suppose you want to know in what part of town this notorious red light district is located. Is it in the center of town, a short stroll from the Royal Palace, or is it at the opposite end of the city, in a bad area? Is it right next to China Town? Are there any temples nearby? Surely the answers say something about Thai culture. To find them, all you have to do is click on the geography link, then click on multimap, and you have a beautiful map of Bangkok, with Patpong highlighted. Or install Google Earth and enter the coordinates, and you'll see an air photo of Patpong, with a resolution of about 3 meters. How could this not be useful? AxelBoldt 19:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC)