Talk:Peace of Prague (1866)

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Terrible Additions

The following is a discussion from the Humanities Desk on the additions made to this page. I'm sorry; I have no wish to be unkind, but they are truly dreadful. Clio the Muse (talk) 01:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

How much of what was said in the Peace of Prague (1866) before User: 75.70.***.*** deleted the parts were true? FromFoamsToWaves (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The additions were really quite terrible, FFTW, a mixture of half-understood, half-digested, erroneous and irrelevant facts which have nothing whatsoever to do with the Treaty of 1866. I'll take the points in turn.

• Otto von Bismarck did not try 'to group several independent states together to form one nation.' The German Empire, a federation, incidentally, and not a unitary nation, was proclaimed at Versailles in January 1871, but its form had emerged from prior negotiations between the Prussian Minister-President and the other German states.

• I have simply no idea what is meant by 'Napoleon created a 1000 entities and put them into 39 states.' I assume this must be some muddled reference to the Confederation of the Rhine. The information in the rest of the paragraph is, well, garbage!

• I have no idea what the reference to the supposed 'economic depression' in 1848 is meant to convey and how this impacted on Austria's alleged attempt 'to unify a German nation states' (sic). It really makes no difference; for it's nonsense.

• As for the meaning of the following paragraph and assertions like 'army was struggling on reforming their groups', or 'establish Prussia as the most German power in the world', well, your guess is as good as mine!

• The German Empire was, as I have said, proclaimed in 1871. It did not have a 'constitution' dating to 1866. I have no idea what is meant by the 'small states were put under Prussian control, while larger states were controlled by federal government.' In any case it's wrong.

The whole thing is of a lamentable standard, hardly acceptable even from the dimmest of primary/grade school pupils. The essential thing, though, is that the various points touched on have no bearing whatsoever on the Treaty of Prague. Clio the Muse (talk) 23:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, there was a constitution for the North German Confederation in 1866. Gordon Craig talks about it in the chapter where he discusses the 1871 constitution in his survey of German history from 1866 to 1945. mrs (talk) 04:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, in that case, do you know what did have to do with this treaty? Thanks ahead of time. FromFoamsToWaves (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

It was simply the agreement that ended the Austro-Prussian War of 1866. Beyond that it offered the Kleindeutsche Lösung-the Lesser German Solution-to the problem of unification, by ensuring the exclusion of Austria and the domination of Prussia. The alternative Grossdeutschland solution had always carried with it the problem of what was to be done with the Austrian Empire's extensive non-Germanic lands. For Bismarck the exclusion of Austria achieved two distinct but related objectives: that Prussia would be the leading power in Germany-by far the most important consideration-and that the new Empire would be united in culture, race and language. Clio the Muse (talk) 01:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks! FromFoamsToWaves (talk) 02:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)