Talk:Pedro Arrupe

"Father General" duration

The intro says:

Pedro Arrupe (Nov. 14, 1907 - Feb. 5, 1991) was the twenty-eighth Father General (1965-83) of the Society of Jesus.

The section "Father General" says:

At the 31st General Congregation (GC 31) of the Society of Jesus in 1965 he was elected to be the order's twenty-eighth Father General. He served in that position from 1965 to 1981.

Which is it? Kurt Weber 18:57, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, the last section says he fell ill in 1981 but did not resign until 1983. I've updated the part above to reflect that. Kurt Weber 19:01, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

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What on earth is this?--Tamas 23:54, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Complete nonsense as far as I can tell, added by User:4.245.227.113 in early November. This page is the only entry for those 'words' Google can find, so I'm for removing it, and some of the other detritus in that paragraph. nae'blis _(talk) 23:51, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

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Citations needed

Rather than leaving these statements interminably with "citation needed" tags, I've moved them here until someone is motivated to research them out and see if they are worth pressing.

For the Jesuits to tie their work so explicitly to the promotion of justice was a very bold move [according to whom?], and some [who?] felt it overly politicized the Society. A critic outside the Jesuits said that "one Basque founded the Jesuits, another one is going to destroy them". [this quote needs a citation]

The decree was so hotly debated that it was not voted on until the last day of the Congregation, March 7, 1975, when it was accepted after a period of intense discussion by an overwhelming majority of delegates. [citation needed]

Arrupe himself was even accused of leading the Jesuits astray.[Dead reference] The controversy led to the condemnation in the 1980s of liberation theology by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (future Pope Benedict XVI), then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.''(This question became more complex in the course of time and I suggest it would take more than this brief mention to sort it all out. Also, the above reference is dead.) Jzsj (talk) 03:01, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Controversy and Criticism

After reading Malachi Martin's treatment of Arrupe's generalship (in his best selling book, The Jesuits), I was curious to read more about him. In contrast to Martin's critical scrutiny of his leadership of the Jesuits, this article reads like hagiography. Is there no room for controversy or criticism, here? Or is Martin's book on the Jesuits widely considered to be false or grossly misleading? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.13.40.64 (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea how Fr. Martin's book has been received and evaluated, over the years, but it certainly is a fascinating read. A summary of his critique of Fr. Arrupe's leadership can be found on pages 476-481 of The Jesuits. Hazratio (talk) 16:25, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Please don't bury this discussion at the bottom of the page (you will only lend support to the allusion to hagiography, above). Hazratio (talk) 14:09, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

au contraire, @Hazratio, you are the one who buries the discussion. It is Wikipedia custom to add new discussions to the bottom of talk pages. If your newly-started discussion remains at the top, nobody will see it! Elizium23 (talk) 15:26, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

My apologies--the opposite would seem more reasonable to me, but I see now that the dates of the comments do begin with the oldest first and the newer ones at the bottom. Thanks... Hazratio (talk) 16:17, 25 November 2022 (UTC)