Talk:Pegasus Seiya
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Creation and conception
edit"Seiya's zodiacal sign is Sagittarius, since, in the story, a Gold Cloth bearer's sign must match that of the Gold Cloth" There actually is a symbolism about this issue, but the matching of zodiacal sign with the cloth it's not a rule: Shiryu was capable of "suit up" with the Capricorn's cloth, for exaple, even if for just a few minutes... I'm going to edit this :-)
Seiya, 星矢, Star Arrow/Dart
editWell the kanji name for Seiya 星矢 have meaning of first word STAR 星 and second word 矢 which mean both Arrow and Dart. I've learned kanji since as a kid and in this case, it would be a matter of personal perferrance. I don't care to make this into any bigger deal, if one thinks to translates it as ARROW would make it sounds better then by all means, but I put both to keep it neutural in literal translations.Yajaec 17:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- In all sources I've found, I've "arrow", plus there's the theme of the sagittarius' arrow, plus the anime title design which features an arrow in the word "Seiya" Folken de Fanel 23:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I agreed with your findings as I have seen them too, but that seem to fall close to original research/POV too. Since I have no objections for the sake of translation sounding better and closer to SEIYA, it's do-able till someone says anything else then.Yajaec 00:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- 矢座 is the japanese name for the Sagitta constellation...Folken de Fanel 23:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, so??? I don't know how much knowledge you have in regarding to kanji, same word placed with different words can have slight change in their meaning, if we are strickly translating literal words by words, some words have multiple translation in english words and vice versa.Yajaec 23:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Basically, we're not here to show off and to say "who is best at kanji".
- Yeah, so??? I don't know how much knowledge you have in regarding to kanji, same word placed with different words can have slight change in their meaning, if we are strickly translating literal words by words, some words have multiple translation in english words and vice versa.Yajaec 23:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm merely pointing out that the Sagitta (Arrow) constellation is 矢座 in japanese... If that's not enough for you to admit that 矢 means "arrow"...
- But you have to keep in mind that repeating that you "know the kanji better than me" won't change the matter...Folken de Fanel 23:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Dude, take it easy, I never put you down in regarding to the translation, I'm only saying that translation may varies when translated literal word by words. I never disagree on the word 矢 can mean arrow also, I'm only saying that in the neutral translations, one would include all the possible translations and I did not disagree or revert the article when you changed it to arrow only. If I'm here to let people know how great or better my kanji is than yours are, then I would have said, you sucks, your translation is bad, mine is the best and correct one (this is just an example of someone that would want to proove they are better at it). Please don't take offence here, the fact that I talked to you first without even changing the article back to my original edition is enough to show you that I'm not here to fight you or put you down.Yajaec 23:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Seiya Pegasus.JPG
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Seiya, supposed death by Hades
editSo to begin with, in both Next Dimension (the continuation of Saint Seiya), and in Tenkai Hen, Seiya has been left in a comatose state because of Hades curse. Now in the original manga after it was published, one could only assume that Seiya was dead. Hades only said that "Pegasus death was in vain". But how would he know if he really was dead? --Refuteku (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
In the original manga and the ovas Seiya was confirmed to be dead by the Saints, Athena and Hades. We can simply make "In Next Dimension Seiya survives..."Tintor2 (talk) 17:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
No they didn't confirm that he was dead, they just sobbed and stuff. --Refuteku (talk) 19:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Refuteku: As you said, Hades said that Seiya's "death" was in vain. He's the lord of the underwolrd and then one who rules death. Wouldn't he be able to distinguish between the ones that are dead and the ones who are not? Volume 28 also provided many other signs such as massive bleeding from Pegasus Seiya's wound and the fact that his cosmos vanished. As you know in the story, all living things have a cosmos. If it's not alive, it doesn't have one!... The theory of a curse came only after Tenkai-hen was released, many years after the last issue of Saint Seiya. How do I know... do you ask? Because I made part of the Suportive Staff who worked on the last volumes of Saint Seiya. Mr. Kurumada also has a farewell message in the last volume(more than a decade ago) where he talks about all the free time he'll get and how he can finally see the sky, at the same time it was the last time he would probably see Seiya's face. There were also problems between Mr. Kurumada and Toei Animation that made him think he wouldn't be able to draw Saint Seiya again, hence he decided to put and end to Pegasus Seiya as his final touch at "that" time. Reason for which it should be respected.
Amick lindsey (talk) 13:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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