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Rewrote article
editI added some more information about Abington based on the PSU-Abington site and my memories of Ogontz. I like the {{Geolinks-US-streetscale|40.11746|-75.10914}} tag, someone put it on another page I edited, and I used it here. Comments/edits welcome. Rob 02:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- I think I said Abby's name a bit too much. I received her scholarship in 1985, and it helped me out a lot. The least I could do is write about her on Wikipedia. Rob 03:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Very nice job on the rewrite. —Spangineer[es] (háblame) 04:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Umm ... where is the Swimming Pool?
The Swimming Pool is in the Basement of the Sutherland Building. It was shut down in the early 1990's because it does not meet code standards. It is used as a storage area now.
K.Fox Grad 2006
Tunnels, hoax?
editI can find no evidence of any tunnels built as air raid shelters, but there are some steam tunnels [1]. As a consequence I'm removing all mentions of the tunnels until a WP:RS is added that confirm their existence. Sjö (talk) 20:04, 9 April 2018 (UTC) Actually, the article needs more reliable sources as large parts of it are unsourced. Sjö (talk) 20:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
I see now that the link above goes to a map of Penn State's main campus, not Abington.My argument still stands; there is no reliable source about any WWII tunnels. Sjö (talk) 19:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I had an off-wiki communication that comfirms my suspicions that it's a hoax. Please be aware that repeatedly adding unsourced or incorrect information can lead to being blocked. Sjö (talk) 04:09, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Hey Sjö, you misspelled "confirms".
I found some credible sources for the tunnels:
http://sites.psu.edu/tunnels/history/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6NbkXrr6w — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.186.48.170 (talk) 19:16, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- That's still Penn State University Park, not Abington, which should be obvious to you because your IP address shows that you edit from Abington. And it says nothing about the tunnels being built in WWII. Stop adding false information.Sjö (talk) 20:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Nothing about WWII? What about the part that says: "The Cold War affected many American cultural and social lives. With a nuclear threat lurking, fallout shelters became common among any community in the United States, and Penn State was one of them. In 1961, the entire East Halls network was connected by underground hallways. During the 1960’s these were stocked with in-case-of-attack supplies such as survival crackers, family radiation kits, radios and gas lanterns." It says Cold War sure, but the implication is that they were built prior to the Cold War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.186.73.108 (talk) 14:02, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't because the year in the source is 1961, and there's no mention of the detailed story about Abby Sutherland building the tunnels. Adding something based on a guess or something implied is expressly proscribed by the Wikipedia policy Wikipedia:No original research. But that doesn't really matter here, because as I've already said, the sources are about Penn State University Park, not Abington. Penn State has 24 campuses where University Park and Abington are in completely different parts of Pennsylvania. This is a map of the Abington campus and this is a map of the University Park campus. The map in your first link is clearly from University Park which you must be aware of since you are at Abington and must know the general layout of your own campus. Also the buildings in the video look like University Park buildings, not Abington ones, which you also must know. Because of this it's impossible for me to assume good faith on your part, and I must draw the conclusion that you deliberately insert factual errors in the article.Sjö (talk), 18 April 2018
Would it help if I provided my own pictures of the tunnels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.186.48.182 (talk) 19:29, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
- Now you're just providing more proof that you are trolling. If you had any pictures of real tunnels you wouldn't have posted links showing some other tunnels at University Park. Please stop your disruptive editing. Disruptive editing, e.g. hoaxing and trolling, can lead to a block. Sjö (talk) 05:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)