Talk:Pentecostal Collegiate Institute (Rhode Island)

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Smjwalsh in topic Citations and too much data

Citations and too much data

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Standard formats for inline citations should be used, rather than these lengthy footnoted additions. There is way too much material from OR in censuses of individuals' birth/death/family data. It makes it very difficult to keep the story straight about the institute. As an example, the following information should be properly cited in a section about William S. Holland - or left out altogether, as it is appropriate for an article on him and his family, rather than this school.

The full past and future of every teacher and student does not need to be listed here. Use your data to write and post separate articles on these people, but use the appropriate inline citations and don't break up sentences with your cites unless absolutely necessary. These do not appear to be controversial facts. It is not appropriate to have their biographies in footnotes. Most educational institutions only have brief paragraphs or lists of early leaders. This is some kind of wild overkill. Parkwells (talk) 19:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

I understand your point. The info is collated for use in creating separate biographical articles. This was done for Lyman C. Pettit. Perhaps not ideal, but hardly a major inconvenience for anyone. WP articles are always in flux and definitely works in progress. Putting this info in the footnotes is common academic practice and prevents interrupting the narrative of the article.smjwalsh (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

1) <<Holland was married to Evalina (sometimes Evelyn) Brown Holland (born September 1875 in Virginia) since early 1899, and had one son, William F.B. Holland (born March 1900 in Rhode Island). See 1900 US Federal Census; Census Place: Providence Ward 8, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll T623_1508; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 71; 1920 US Federal Census; Census Place: Providence Ward 7, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll T625_1677; Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 251; Image: 768. Holland was a graduate of the Virginia Union University of Richmond, Virginia in 1897, and had also been awarded an honorary degree from a college in Texas. In June 1939 his alma mater awarded Holland the honorary degree of Doctor of Divinity. See The Afro-American (10 June 1939):8. Holland was survived his second wife, Viola E. Holland (born about 1901 in Worcester, Massachusetts; died about 14 October 1986 in Rhode Island). See "Viola E. Holland", Providence Journal (15 October 1986):C-10.>>

2)Albrecht (born June 1856 in New York),<,Albrecht had been a Methodist clergyman in Westport Factory, near Fall River, Massachusetts, prior to becoming principal of PCI at Saratoga Springs in 1900. The 1900 US Federal Census indicates that Albrecht had married Sharlott (born February 1872 in New York), his second wife about 1897, and that he had three children: William H. Albrecht, Jr. (born February 1883 in New York), Lula F. Albrecht (born December 1884 in New York), and Raymond J. Albrecht (born 23 August 1890), and that on 1 June 1900 they were living in the town of East Fishkill, New York. See 1900 US Federal Census: Census Place: East Fishkill, Dutchess, New York; Roll T623_1022; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 5, pages 20-21>>

3)<<Perry was the oldest child of Rev. Nathan F. Perry (born about 1840 in Canada), a Methodist minister who had been pastor at St. Albans, Vermont until his death, and Ella Winslow Perry (born July 1856 in Vermont), and brother to Gertrude L. Perry (born August 1879 in Vermont). See 1880 US Federal Census; Census Place: Springfield, Windsor, Vermont; Roll T9_1350; Family History Film: 1255350; Page: 307.1000; Enumeration District: 264; Cameron, 23; Olive G. Tracy, Tracy Sahib: 16-18. Perry drowned on 22 November 1902 while canoeing on Moswansicut Lake. See "Three Canoeists Drown: Two Men and a Woman Perish in a Rhode Island Lake During a Squall", The New York Times (24 November 1902):1; "Three Bodies Recovered in Lake:, The New York Times (30 November 1902):9; The Beta Theta Pi 30 (1902):506; Cameron, 37-38; Hazarded Lives, 61.</ref> an 1898 graduate of Boston University,[1] who had been a teacher in Pembroke, Massachusetts, who had taught Greek, German, science, and mathematics at PCI in Saratoga Springs from 1901;[2] and some of the PCI students who had relocated from Saratoga Springs (including future APCA and Nazarene missionary to India Leighton S. Tracy),[3] who was a ordained Methodist evangelist,[4] who had served for about twelve years as a missionary in India,[5] and a prolific author,<ref>Daniels is the author of D. L. Moody and his Work (London and Hartford, 1875); That Boy: Who Shall Have Him ? (Cincinnati and London, 1878); The Temperance Reform and its Great Reformers (New York, 1878); Moody, his Words, Work, and Works (1879); The Illustrated History of Methodism in the United States (1880); Graduated with Honor: Memorials of Gilbert Haven (Cincinnati, 1880); and A Short History of the People called Methodist (London, 1882); Dr. Cullis and His Work: Twenty Years of Blessing in Answer to Prayer (Boston: Willard Tract Repository, 1885). See James Grant Wilson, John Fiske and Stanley L. Klos, eds., Appleton's Cyclopedia of American Biography. Vol. 2 (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1888):76.>> served as interim principal at PCI during 1905.

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  1. ^ Cameron, 23; The Beta Theta Pi 26 (1898):44.
  2. ^ The Beta Theta Pi 26 (1898):44.
  3. ^ Olive Gertrude Tracy, Tracy Sahib of India Rev. ed. (Kansas City, MO: Nazarene Publishing House, 1990):17.; "Tracy, Leighton S(tanley)", in David Shavit, The United States in Asia: A Historical Dictionary, (Greenwood Publishing Group, 1990):492.>> 4)Daniels: , A.M. (born 18 May 1836 in Franklin, Massachusetts; died in Markazi Province, Persia about 1908),<<Daniels married Henrietta Maria Merrick (born 23 Apr 1838; died Santa Cruz, California) on 11 September 1860 in Chicopee, Massachusetts. They had two daughters: Emma Theodora Daniels (born 6 March 1863 in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada) and Alice (born in Illinois about 1863; died before 1880). One source indicates Daniels died in 1908 (see Jones, 1200), however US 1910 Federal Census suggests after 1910. See 1870 US Federal Census; Census Place: Chicago Ward 16, Cook, Illinois; Roll M593_209; Page: 34A; Image: 71; Family History Library Film: 545708; 1880 US Federal Census; Census Place: Chicopee, Hampden, Massachusetts; Roll T9_534; Family History Film: 1254534; Page: 217.2000; Enumeration District: 287; Image: 0441.
  4. ^ Daniels entered Wesleyan University, then traveled in Europe, became librarian in Northwestern University in 1866, and was professor of rhetoric in Illinois Wesleyan University in 1868-1869. He joined the Rock River conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church in 1869, was a minister in Chicago, Illinois from 1870-1874, then at the Park Avenue M.E. Church at River Forest, Illinois, went to Europe with revivalist Dwight L. Moody in 1875, became a supernumerary in 1876, and from 1881 devoted himself to literature, and to the work of an evangelist. In 1885 he resigned his connection with the New England conference. In 1902 he was readmitted to the New York Conference. In 1910 Daniels was still active as an evangelist and lived in Pacific Grove, California. See Mortimer Blake, A History of the Town of Franklin, Mass. (Pub. by the Committee of the Town, 1879):149; James Grant Wilson, John Fiske and Stanley L. Klos, eds., Appleton's Cyclopedia of American Biography. Vol. 2 (New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1888):76; Official Journal: Minutes of the New York Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church (The Conference, 1900-1905):136; Thomas William Herringshaw, ed., Herringshaw's National Library of American Biography, Vol. 2 (American Publishers' Association, 1909):201; 1910 US Federal Census; Census Place: Pacific Grove, Monterey, California; Roll T624_89; Page: 18B; Enumeration District: 16; Image: 961.
  5. ^ From 1888 to 1896, and again from 1899 to about 1902, Daniels was a Methodist missionary in India, and a member of the Northwest India Conference of the ME Church, where he supplied the pulpit of the Mussoorie English church in 1899, and was an evangelist in the Allahabad district. In 1901 he was active in South India. See The Gospel in All Lands 20 (s.n., 1899):82; The Gospel in All Lands 21 (s.n., 1900):120; The Gospel in All Lands 22 (s.n., 1901):168; Official Journal: Minutes of the New York Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church (The Conference, 1900-1905):136; John Norman Hollister, The Centenary of the Methodist Church in Southern Asia (Lucknow Pub. House, 1956):189.