Talk:Pepero

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Pepero originates from Pocky

I know that there's a previous section on this, but I'm starting a new section since the other one is outdated.

From the talk pages, it's obvious that there was a controversy over whether pepero was a copy of pocky or not. Apparently, the previous editors decided that this was the best statement:

This product originated from pocky which is manufactured by a Japanese confectionery company Glico since 1966.[2][3]

However, the sources [2] is a primary source that doesn't even mention pepero and [3] simply stating that pepero is a 'Korean version of pocky' without referring to origins or history. Thus,the previous statement has to be considered Original Research without a reliable source, and following WP:NOR, should be revmoed.

Thus, I promote that the statement be removed and the following statements be added:

Pepero is an original product created by Lotte. OR Lotte claims Pepero is an original product

If there is no reliable source for a counterclaim, the first statement should be created with the sources being: http://www.pepero.co.kr/pepero/is/pepero.jsp as the primary source and http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2013/11/11/on-pepero-day-a-japanese-rival-lurks/ as the secondary source that states Lotte claims Pepero as its own product. If there is a reliable claim that states Pepero is a copy of Pocky (and is claimed as such by an authority), than the authority should be cited and the second statement established instead

I'm only posting this since there was a previous, and as far as I can tell, an existing controversy. So, I'll wait 7 days for a consensus, or the lack thereof to change it. Feel free to comment, though please cite your sources.

Thank youKkj11210 (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Stick + chocolate confectionery is a chocolate Pretzels origin of Europe. (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.17.9 (talk)

Pepero a copy of Pocky?

The word "copy" has been thrown around often about Pepero, when it isn't really a copy considering it is a legitimate product that has been around for more than 20 years. While its origins are 100% clearly inspired from Pocky, Pepero, along with many other Korean snacks, were nonetheless started in a business environment that was hostile to Japanese companies, and thus have built up legitimacy in Korea despite being fairly obvious rip-offs (different from a copy) of Japanese products. You can purchase many Japanese snacks in Korea nowadays, but in the case of the many similar snacks (빼빼로, 새우깡, 카라멜콘땅콩, etc.), it is a little too late to enter the market and expect huge sales. This is a direct result of Korea having a closed economy for many years. However, nowadays, these Korean products are every bit as legitimate as the Japanese products are, and have indeed built up a "culture" of their own, and thus the word "copy" is a weasel word that should be avoided. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Lindberg (talk • contribs) 00:51, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

As I understand the "legitimacy" was not in question today, but rather, the description in relation to 'Pocky'. It is a copy product, not only by the founder's admission in the past. In this regard, passing itself off as just an inspiration, i.e. "It was inspired by Pocky", is a skew in the article and not neutral in perception or interpretation. 86.134.80.216 (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, both 'Pocky' and 'Pepero' are products of Lotte, one company based in both Seoul and Tokyo. The products have been simply branded under a different name. It is implausible to dub this peculiarity as "pirating" when the owner of the copyrights to both products is the same company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.62.35 (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually Pocky and Pepero are in fact not made by the same company. Pocky is made by Glico, and Lotte (which does have a presence in Japan but does not sell its "pakuri" products in Japan) does not sell Pepero in Japan due to copyright issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.40.222.234 (talk) 04:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The real problem

Not knowing the definition of the word pakuri, I looked it up, and found a bunch of childish videos on Youtube filled with childish people accusing Japan/Korea of copying the other instead of actually discussing the differences/similarities/origins like mature adults. Perhaps I'm the ignorant one who was getting in the middle of a pointless internet rivalry, stemmed from a real rivalry.

If anybody is interested in a real discussion about exactly WHY products like Pepero show up, a similar product to Pocky, released in Korea from a Japanese company (which was founded by a Korean), let me know.

Anybody using the word pakuri or "copy product" is simply trolling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Lindberg (talk • contribs) 00:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:LAME

I think we're well on our way to getting Pepero into the disrespected annals of Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars. "Similar" or "almost identical"? Let's get it on! Heroeswithmetaphors (talk) 23:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Flavours

What is the source for this? I can't find any reliable sources on it and anywhere I've been in the stores here only has the 3 flavours, not 10. There is nothing on their website about any additional 7 flavours either.--Crossmr (talk) 12:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I dont know much about wikipedia to edit the article, but I just wanted to say the flavors of this article are 100% incorrect... perhaps someone has confused this with pocky flavors? The flavors sold in South Korea are original, strawberry, nude (which is similar to japanese snack Toppo), peanut, and almond. For pepero day they sometimes have a special large shape or a special edition chocolate biscuit version for gift sets, but that is all. You can view the flavors on the pepero official site as well http://event.pepero.co.kr/pepero/history/history.jsp however it only works correctly in Internet Explorer. 116.32.180.14 (talk) 16:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Sales in 2008

This sales figure needs to be cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.203.34.2 (talk) 01:36, 12 November 2012 (UTC)