Talk:Percy Hynes White

Notability

Just a reminder that WP:NACTOR is not automatically passed just because an actor has had roles — it is passed only when an actor has received enough reliable source coverage about him in media to fulfill WP:GNG for having had roles. I'm not going to shoot this on sight this time, but will offer it time to improve — but I do need to point out that this version is not making a stronger NACTOR claim (which, again, requires more than just "has had roles"), or citing stronger sourcing to actually get over NACTOR, than the first version did, and it will be vulnerable to redeletion if the sourcing doesn't see timely improvement. Bearcat (talk) 23:17, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Conflicting information about first role?

The Career section says “Hynes's first role was Andy Strucker, a mutant in the X-Men-derived Fox TV pilot The Gifted”. This seems to be directly contradicted by the Filmography section, which shows several roles before The Gifted. (I removed the statement, but my edit was reverted, so I’m bringing it up here). Wednesday90 (talk) 17:28, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Sexual assault allegations?

Recently, Percy was accused of sexual assault by many people and there’s nothing in the article about that. Should there be a wait for more information, or write what has happened so far? Klee Bakudan (talk) 06:17, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Is there any legal accusation? If not, it should not be in the lemma. Anybody can *allege* anyone of distasteful or even criminal behavior. Particularly 'famous people' are vulnerable to smear campaigns in social media. A legal accusation of a criminal act is quite a different category, as it requires probable cause as established by a judge. So that is where I would draw the line. In my view, people on Twitter claiming that X did 'bad stuff' or even 'very bad stuff' is not serious enough to include in encyclopedic articles. Mcouzijn (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

It has actually been proven by further tweets by the accusers that he did not do those things, that he may be associated with people who did. I suggest looking at these Twitter threads of people who dug deeper in to the accusations.

https://twitter.com/jemmashearts/status/1627823610260750344?s=20

https://x.com/inzaynitys/status/1785029313609232785

https://twitter.com/taninaheenmani/status/1616195548171874304?s=20 162.119.16.13 (talk) 03:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

In those tweets, he is accused of sexual assault (groping someone nonconsensually). MisfitBlitz (talk) 22:51, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

WP:BLP requires strong sourcing to include such content; Twitter posts are insufficient. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

There is proof of photos that he allegedly sent to minors. MisfitBlitz (talk) 23:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Please read WP:BLP and WP:RS. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

In response to this edit by User:Verysadpineapple:

While I definitely agree that the "We Got This Covered" source is unreliable and should not be used per WP:WEGOTTHISCOVERED, the paragraph also cites reliable sources below, such as WP:VARIETY and WP:INDYUK. The "US Weekly" source is listed neither as being good or bad in the list, so not really much incentive to remove the whole paragraph because of that either. I reckon we should find a better-quality replacement source for that first one rather than just remove the whole entire paragraph because of one bad source out of four.

Pinging other involved editors User:Stabwed, User:SmittenGalaxy and User:Melcous. — AP 499D25 (talk) 02:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

The WP:GUNREL source can be removed, and I'm not opposed to Us Weekly being taken out as well (due to having additional considerations); neither of those sources are necessary for the paragraph to exist. Most of what is said is either already mentioned above in #Career or mentioned in the Variety/Independent articles. Additionally, I don't see any reason to believe it's libelous; it's simply reporting on what reliable sources are saying. SmittenGalaxy | talk! 02:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree with User:SmittenGalaxy. Information about this incident is described in #Career. Variety and Independent articles may be added to this part. But the case was that I checked the sources and found out that this paragraph 80% consists of what was copied from unreliable source, that can potentially be libelous because of that. "US Weekly" also seems like not really reliable source when it comes about a topic that involves a lot of rumors and no any official statement from anyone except of accused person. Verysadpineapple (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

There are no formal accusations in his case, Forbes writes [1]. I think this info should be included. In my opinion there's no need to mention the incident twice in the same article. The most impact it had is supposedly his absence from the second season of Wednesday. The most reliable source I've found for it is Variety [2]

I propose to add this and Independent articles to the already existing Career section and include "no formal charges were filed" with Forbes source in the text. Kavverno (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:FORBESCON, Forbes articles by "contributors" do not meet WP:RS criteria. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Also this link can be added with description of the reaction on excluding from season 2 [3]. Source is reliable. This can be replacement for US Weekly. It is written there that Netflix have declined to comment, may be important to add. I couldn't find any reliable source for what was told in WP:WEGOTTHISCOVERED, therefore I think that most of the paragraph still should be deleted, and part of it, that has reliable sources, should be moved to #Career, where other info on this topic already added. Verysadpineapple (talk) 16:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Made all the changes that were discussed here. Paragraph was moved to #Career with all the sources. Verysadpineapple (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

User:Stabwed continues to return the paragraph with unreliable source WP:WEGOTTHISCOVERED that was rewritten and moved to #Career with all reliable sources, and then edited by other users. I reverted it. Verysadpineapple (talk) 17:23, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2023

Please remove Source 1. It is not credible, as the author did not research nor interview the actor. The article from Collider is not an informative article nor a respected journalist site. 2601:41:C401:3330:8174:1D3A:32EF:6DBB (talk) 03:40, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done - looks like this just didn't get closed. Tollens (talk) 04:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)