Talk:Permesta
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I copyedited as much as I could without changing the meaning as I understand it, but there were parts that didn't make sense to me and I was hesitant to change -- so the article could still use a bunch of work from someone who knows a bit more about the subject. -- Avocado 01:03, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)
This is known in Indonesia as the PRRI-Permesta rebellion. The rebels recieved substanial sponsorship from the CIA, as is well documented. I hope to get some time to fix this up (and link relevant Indonesia pages into this) but haven't the time right now (sorry!). Anyone interested on the US aspect might start by reading Paul F. Gardner's book, Feet to the Fire: CIA Covert Action in Indonesia, 1957-58, or alternatively, Kahin & Kahin, Subversion as Foreign Policy: The Secret Eisenhower and Dulles Debacle in Indonesia. 192.43.227.18 10:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Could anybody add something from Permesta's perspective? I know there are some books written by PRRI/Permesta exponents. I was stunned when I read this line: "The most significant progenitor of the rebellion was the opportunism by local military leaders..."Ozeph (talk) 10:39, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
This article seems quite subjective and biased (from an anti Permesta perspective). The book 'Permesta: Half a rebellion,' by Harvey, B C (1977) is quoted in other publications as having extensive information on the subject. Also, publications such as 'Minahasa Civilization: A tradition of change', by Lundström-Burghoorn, W (1981) and 'Leadership and social mobility in a South East Asian society', by Schouten, M J C (1983) give reasons such as economic dominance and mismangagement from Jakarta (which resulted in stagnation of the north Sulawesi economy) as the reason for the armed rebellion rather than "the opportunism by local military leaders who during the Liberal Democracy Era in Indonesia (1950-1957), had developed a system of warlordism due to weakness and instability of central government in Jakarta.". This article should be amended.
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edithow could this possibly be true? does no one check things before publishing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Антон васильков (talk • contribs) 21:39, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Created the new page for armed conflict
editBetween the armed conflict and movement it's must be separated Adamara149 (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. Srnec (talk) 22:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)