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You may be right. My only concern is that the google books result do not refer to the institution of perpetual ispáns, but to the title of Hunyadi (which is, of course, connected to the institution). Borsoka (talk) 03:06, 22 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
I still maintain that all the referred sources make mention of a title, not of the institution. However, I agree that the usage should be checqued. Borsoka (talk) 06:41, 22 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Support. Although it is not so evident, as the anonymous user suggests (many of the sources mentioned above use the title "ispán" instead of "count" when referring to the non-hereditary heads of counties in the Kingdom of Hungary, and in Hungarian the title is the same for hereditary and non-hereditary holders of this office), but for the time being there is no reliable source substantiating the use of the expression "perpetual ispán" in English sources. Borsoka (talk) 06:50, 28 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Support, per GB results. However, Borsoka has right, "ispán" (comes) was not a hereditary title for aristocracy, the latter (count; gróf) appeared in Hungary for the first time in the Late Middle Ages (see e. g. Szentgyörgyi family, Counts of Szentgyörgy and Bazin)--Norden1990 (talk) 00:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
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