Talk:Personal Submersibles Organization

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because...it has not finished being edited yet. PSUBS is a legitimate group that is known world-wide and has a legitimate place as an encyclopedia reference. Certainly as legitimate as the Knights of Columbus or any other fraternity/organization that performs a public interest. --Joepekoe (talk) 02:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

• No, your argument is WP:OTHERCRAP and you couldn't be more wrong. Qworty (talk) 05:12, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
• I disagree. While Wikipedia can't control what pages are created, it CAN control which pages are deleted. Therefore, if one article does not meet WP requirements but is left intact, that article's existance can certainly be used to justify the existance of another article. There are only two alternatives, allow both articles to remain or delete both articles. Allowing an existing article to remain in place after it has been identified as having no demonstrable differences in notability as a new article is ARBITRARY and not based upon any meaningful guideline or standard. Joepekoe (talk) 14:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

NOTABLE references which credibly indicate the significance of this page have been added, Also to come are notable references to other wikipedia articles that reference the Personal Submersibles Organization (see edward beach page, phil nuytten page, K-250 and K-350 submarine pages). Please remove the speedy deletion marker. Joepekoe (talk) 04:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

• No, you're wrong again, per WP:42. You're a new user and you don't understand how things work around here. Read WP:COI, WP:SPA, and especially WP:RS. Your article is surely going to be deleted. It's subject is just not notable per WP guidelines. Qworty (talk) 05:14, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
• I disagree. Notability is not black/white even given written WP guidelines. This article is prima facie notable because it meets the primary requirements of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies) in that the subject matter is an organization and the organization has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Joepekoe (talk) 14:10, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 06:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Why?

Although this is a very short article I fail to see why it is not notable? Sure it has nothing attached, not a ref or wikilink, but I still think it is a something?

Anyway, that my 2 cents worth.

Many thanks and kindest regards, Mr.NiceGuy (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 06:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC))