Talk:Persoonia linearis/GA1

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Reviewer: Sasata (talk · contribs) 02:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll review this in the next few days ... have to finish up a constellation FAC review first :) Sasata (talk) 02:39, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, looks pretty good to me; here's some comments from a quicky readthrough. I'll be back with more (+ a lit search) later. Sasata (talk) 20:59, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

• "from Cavanilles' original description of the genus description" reword to avoid repetition

removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "Meanwhile German botanist Karl Friedrich von Gaertner had coined the name Pentadactylon angustifolium" comma after meanwhile; what year did this happen?

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "Joseph Knight described this species as the narrow-leaved persoonia (Persoonia angustifolia) in his controversial 1809 work" how was it controversial?

aaah, see On the cultivation of the plants belonging to the natural order of Proteeae - wasn't hugely germane to this one as this binomial was not one of the ones Brown coined which was highjacked by Salisbury. Might be easier to leave out the adjective, though the work had a degree of notoriety...what do you think? Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• I think unless the reference you used to source this material from says or implies that it's controversial, it should be left out. Sasata (talk) 17:54, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

• "but the binomial name was declared an Illegitimate name" declared by who?

ach, "declared" not a good word...as far as I know it was just never taken up. It is/was superfluous. I have removed "declared" and assumed that as I have never seen it. I'll look into it further. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• link variety, interbreed, hybrid

first and third linked...second redirects to Sexual reproduction which I am not sure is a good target.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• what does the specific epithet linearis mean? Ok, found it in description (but think it makes more sense placed where nomenclature is discussed)

rejigged Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:18, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• what does geebung mean? Naam-burra?

I haven't come across any meanings other than that they are names for the plants/fruit. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "while deeper layers are reddish in colour."

removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "Within the bark are epicormic buds which sprout" comma before which, or change which-> that

comma added Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "with slightly rolled margins" rolled up or down?

down - added Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "Each bears two seeds." source?

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• any close-up pictures of the flowers? Drupes?

it's in flower at present, so will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• link Sydney

Sydney Basin better....linked Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "several species of Persoonia which regenerate" which->that

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• "Filiglossa in the same genus, that also" that->which

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• convert for 1900 mg?

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• perhaps link floral arrangement, cutting

done both Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

• Finds from a lit search that may or may not be useful:

Title: Some effects of low-intensity fires on populations of co-occurring small trees in the Sydney region

Author(s): Morrison, David A.

Source: Proceedings of the Linnean Society of New South Wales Volume: 115 Issue: 0 Pages: 109-119 Published: 1995

no extra info not already covered by other Morrison article, which was a review of a burn of the same area. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Title: A new glycoside antimicrobial agent from Persoonia linearis x pinifolia

Author(s): MacLeod, JK; Rasmussen, HB; Willis, AC

Source: JOURNAL OF NATURAL PRODUCTS Volume: 60 Issue: 6 Pages: 620-622 DOI: 10.1021/np970006a Published: JUN 1997

added Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Title: Restoring a jarrah forest understorey vegetation after bauxite mining in Western Australia

Author(s): Koch, John M.

Source: RESTORATION ECOLOGY Volume: 15 Issue: 4 Supplement: S Pages: S26-S39 Published: DEC 2007

false positive. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Title: Biological inventory for conservation evaluation: IV. Composition, distribution and spatial prediction of vegetation assemblages in southern Australia

Author(s): Neave, Helen M.; Norton, Toyn W.

Source: Forest Ecology and Management Volume: 106 Issue: 2–3 Pages: 259–281

added - helps me generalise its rainfall requirements. Otherwise it says its a common understory shrub in the southeast corner of the continent (we already have a ref for it being common across its range) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

• how about a citation to the protolog? That's a great drawing too, it would be nice if there was a way to make it fit in somewhere…

yeah that's nice - got it in. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:16, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

?? You messin' with me? I don't see it. Seriously, the "dark trunk" image really is dark (I mean the lighting) and looks more like a habitat shot, similar to the one already in the "Distribution and habitat" section. I'd suggest a crop to show the bark better, but the photo doesn't seems to be in good enough focus for a close-up crop. Perhaps you have another pic (or could reshoot?). I think the protologue drawing would be good in the Taxonomy section. Sasata (talk) 23:42, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I meant got a mention of the book, not the image..yes the image is nice so will do a screen capture...incidentally Lambertia formosa which is on plate 69 in the same book will be up for GAN soon. I rifled through my photos and am amazed I haven't taken any closeups of the bark. I took some last weekend in hte late afternoon but overexposed on the flash so they looked all washed out and terrible. I will try again this weekend. But I agree the illustration is of more value than the habit shot as is and will sort out tonight. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• add a reference for the synonyms (in the taxobox)?

reffed Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Instead of duplicate citations for each synonym, how about a single citation in the "synonyms_ref=" parameter? Sasata (talk) 23:42, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

D'oh! I ddin't even know that existed...gimme a sec.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• the APNI lists additional synonyms not listed in the taxobox (Persoonia filifolia A.Dietr. nom. illeg.; Persoonia linearis var. latior Meisn.; Persoonia pentadactylon Steud. nom. illeg.); if this were FAC I would probably ask to have these mentioned or discussed in Taxonomy.

synonyms added...seems wrong to have subspecies in taxobox as synonyms. Will add to text soonish have added material now..Steudel was just a combination and not merited a mention anywhere else. Tempted just to leave in taxobox. Also note mention in Michel Gandoger about naming many species....anyway I think that's it....let me know what you think Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:28, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, looks like the article meets all of the GA criteria. Please review my copyedits. I changed the description and added a PD-old licensing tag to the Andrews illustration. May have some more nitpicks if I see this article at FAC, but I'll save those for later :-) Sasata (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Changes all look fine...may as well bring on any more nitpicks as ...it's there.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)