Talk:Peruvian Amazon Company

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The picture

"Chained workers" doesn't quite describe the situation. They are clearly in some type of subjugation, enslavement, servitude -- I do not know enough about the topic, but they are clearly not free-people. I think either the caption should reflect that, or a different photo should be considered instead. Thanks. Illang (talk) 00:07, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Further information

Regarding further information and elaboration, what should else should this article include? I have read Walter Ernest Hardenburg 1912 as well as Roger Casement's 1910 journal. I am curious for other opinions so that there is not tunnel vision on this article. Arawoke (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Items to further focus on:

• Acquisition of territory prior to the formation of the PAC. Especially regarding estates that became an asset of Arana’s company through debt or force.
• Control over rivers, tributaries and portage routes in the Putumayo region. Including which steamships serviced the tributaries, which ships ferried rubber to regional headquarters, and which steamers delivered rubber to Iquitos. [Liberal + Cosmopolita, possibly Perservança]. It is also extremely important to mention that the PAC had a deal with the Peruvian government to ferry soldiers and their stores to the Putumayo free of charge and in exchange [check casement 2003 source, this info comes from David Cazes] PAC steamers were not charged for their freight.
• Reported numbers for the amount of rubber exported from the Putumayo river between 1907-1913. Judge Romuló Paredes correlated the large consignments of rubber sent from the Putumayo with an increased frequency of crime. His words: “ Crime swelled proportion to the rubber returned, and mounted step by step with the number of kilogrammes of rubber obtained.” In 1912, an important figure on the Putumayo subject (I believe it is Stuart J. Fuller, I need to double check) noted that PAC exports had increased between 1911-1912 and this could only have been done through the employment of the continued employment of slave labor.
• Propaganda employed by the Peruvian Amazon Company, specifically in regards to attempts to portray the company as a “civilizing force” as well as the portrayal of local natives as cannibals that persisted in resisting Peruvian civilization.
• Suppression of indigenous rebellions and reprisals for entrapped natives attempting to escape. Notable cases to focus on include the rebellion of Katenere, El Encanto securing escaped natives in 1908 [El Pensamiento, La Reserva, Gabriel Martinez was arrested by Bartolome Zumaeta for engaging in relations with natives that fled PAC territory.], the 1910 correria led by A. Normand across the Caqueta [resulted in the capture of Kodihinka and his family. Kodihinka perished from the effects of flagellation at La China.], the Peruvian military suppressing “the rebellion of Atenas” in 1916 or 1917 [after PAC’s liquidation, however Remigio Vega and Carlos Seminario were the replacements for PAC’s managers respectively at Atenas and Entre Rios. Vega and Seminario had a role in instigating this rebellion according to indigenous oral history.]
• Further information on concubinage and the effects of Peruvian Amazon Company agents upon the indigenous population. Especially in regards to the managers of La Chorrera’s agency. [A. Agüero had 9-10 indigenous concubines. A. Normand had 4-5 concubines in 1910, Elías Martinengui was allowed to leave the Putumayo with 4 indigenous concubines. A. O’Donnell left the Putumayo with at least one indigenous concubine, she was transported back to La Chorrera’s territory in 1912. Information on this subject in regards to the Rodriguez brothers, J.I Fonseca, Fidel Velarde and Carlos Miranda should be investigated
• Information regarding Romuló Paredes’s investigation

Arawoke (talk) 15:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Arawoke (talk · contribs) 14:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Tavantius (talk · contribs) 04:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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It is really close to fulfilling the criteria, however, in some parts o the article, it seems to not be very focused on the plantation itself. Also, the last section seems to be a tad bit too short. If you could add to it, that would be nice. Tavantius (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for this feedback! I will be able to address those two points on Wednesday-Thursday. Arawoke (talk) 06:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I have added two new sections to this article, would you mind giving feedback on how well I addressed your comment? I have more information that I can add, or I can make clarifications where necessary. Arawoke (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Huh, I didn't get pinged. Nevermind that, it seems good enough to be accepted. Tavantius (talk) 17:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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