Talk:Petar Chaulev

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Jingiby in topic Personal claims

Use of the name Petre Chashule?

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Hi. "Petar Chaulev, also called Petre Chashule". Im doing some research on this topic and could not find another source where Chaulev uses the name Petre Chashule. Do you have any references or sources that confirm that he also used this other name? Thanks.--Qwertycow (talk) 05:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Despite his Albanian origins, Petar Chaulev had ethnic Bulgarian and regional Macedonian identity. There are 3 secondary sources provided, confirming that. There were also Vlachs who had Bulgarian ethnic identity etc. Do not put unencyclopedic citations out of the context and without a discussion. Check another project called Wikiquote. According to Caulev himself: We are Bulgarians, and we will discuss how to run this country, but our interest there must have limits. Since three years I wander in foreign countries, that are much better, and much more cultural and much more free, but I love Bulgaria more than all, because I am Bulgarian. as citted from: Отворено писмо на П. Чаулев до Кирил Пърличев, счетоводител на Вътрешната Македонска Революционна Организация и учител в III Софийска мъжка гимназия, София, 13 октомври 1924 г. Thanks. 212.117.45.70 (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Every person has the right to make his identification free. You do not have a permission to change it. 212.117.45.70 (talk) 12:52, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Will you show an academic secondary source that confirms what the letter contains? Thank you. 79.126.172.250 (talk) 12:59, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
In Curnushanov's study there's only a citation, and it doesn't say "ethnic Bulgarian". So, "Bulgarian" here might mean - "Bulgarian subject", or "citizen of Bulgaria". 79.126.172.250 (talk) 13:14, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Curnushanov clearly states: Despite the ideological differences between the two wings fof IMRO, one remained valid for both: their Bulgarian national consciousness. 212.117.45.70 (talk) 13:25, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
OK, I agree. According to the source, he identified himself a Bulgarian, but nationally, not ethnically. Nationality means citizenship rather than ethnicity. So, Chaulev was a Bulgarian citizen of Albanian ethnic origin. 79.126.172.250 (talk) 13:33, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
If you do not understand the meaning of the term national consciousness, check it on Wikipedia. 212.117.45.70 (talk) 13:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
There's no evidence that Petar Chaulev had Bulgarian citizenship at all. --StanProg (talk) 19:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Personal claims

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User:51.154.123.175, your claims about the origin of your family or your personal thoughts what nationality Chaulev was, are irrelevant here. Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 13:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

User:Millan004 the article Occupational Intoxication with Carbon Monoxide[1] is not related to the issue. Please, stop vandalizing this article.Jingiby (talk) 19:47, 30 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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  1. ^ Mikov, Ivan; Draskovic, Dragan; Savic, Milica; Arsic, Miodrag; Todorovski, Zoran; Glavaski, Mirjana (2000-11). "Occupational Intoxication with Carbon Monoxide". Archives of Environmental Health: An International Journal. 55 (6): 455–456. doi:10.1080/00039890009604046. ISSN 0003-9896. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)