Talk:Petar Kočić/GA2
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Bryanrutherford0 in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: Bryanrutherford0 (talk · contribs) 16:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- The prose standard is good. The MoS is followed for all the required sections excepting the lead; I've trimmed a lot of excessive detail out of the lead
, but now it needs a better summary of Kočić's work and importance as a writer (it currently presents him almost exclusively as an activist and politician).
- The prose standard is good. The MoS is followed for all the required sections excepting the lead; I've trimmed a lot of excessive detail out of the lead
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- I'll have to AGF on the offline books and papers, as well as the non-English sources, but there's enough accessible online to confirm the overall outline of the article, as well as many of the details. No signs of plagiarism that I can see, though I can't check for close paraphrasing from the offline sources.
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- The article seems to cover most of the biography's major points
, though it should probably mention his marriage (currently he just suddenly has a wife sometime around his stay in Vienna?). One significant problem is that, while the article describes Kočić as a playwright and claims that he was "one of the most important South Slavic playwrights of the 20th century," it only mentions him writing one one-act play. This needs to be clarified.
- The article seems to cover most of the biography's major points
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- The images all appear to have appropriate licenses.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Most of the comments from the previous review still stand; I've made a few updates. There are a few issues of coverage and clarity that need to resolved. If those are addressed, it will be able to meet the standard. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 16:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Bryanrutherford0. Thanks for picking up this article once again. From what I gather, your primary concern is the lack of coverage about the plays the author wrote. I'll try and find more detailed sources in the next few days. Thanks. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Coverage of his work as a playwright and at least some mention of his marriage in the body, and then more balanced coverage in the lead that presents him as a writer as well as an activist and politician. Those are the major lacks that I see. Thanks for taking this up! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed all the points you brought up, Bryanrutherford0. What are your thoughts? Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- This is great progress! I guess my one remaining concern is that the article still calls him "one of the most important South Slavic playwrights of the 20th century"; can that really be true if he apparently only wrote one one-act play? I can't access the entire page that the claim is cited to, but what I can see says that "Bosnian dramaturgy has not produced a single classic," presumably including "The Badger on Trial". Is there evidence of his importance specifically as a playwright that I'm not seeing? If not, then these claims (and the infobox) should be revised, probably to call him an important "writer" rather than an important "playwright". -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed all the points you brought up, Bryanrutherford0. What are your thoughts? Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Coverage of his work as a playwright and at least some mention of his marriage in the body, and then more balanced coverage in the lead that presents him as a writer as well as an activist and politician. Those are the major lacks that I see. Thanks for taking this up! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, Bryanrutherford0. Thanks for picking up this article once again. From what I gather, your primary concern is the lack of coverage about the plays the author wrote. I'll try and find more detailed sources in the next few days. Thanks. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Most of the comments from the previous review still stand; I've made a few updates. There are a few issues of coverage and clarity that need to resolved. If those are addressed, it will be able to meet the standard. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 16:34, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
- You're right, Bryanrutherford0. I just checked Rubin and he describes him as one of the most important Bosnian playwrights, not South Slavic as a whole. Good catch! As for The Badger on Trial, a quick search of Google Books shows that several different authors have characterized it as one of his "best" and "most enduring plays", so it probably merits inclusion in the opening paragraph. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:18, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Great, this looks ready to go. Thanks for your work! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- You're right, Bryanrutherford0. I just checked Rubin and he describes him as one of the most important Bosnian playwrights, not South Slavic as a whole. Good catch! As for The Badger on Trial, a quick search of Google Books shows that several different authors have characterized it as one of his "best" and "most enduring plays", so it probably merits inclusion in the opening paragraph. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:18, 6 April 2020 (UTC)