Talk:Peter Quill (footballer)

Requested move 19 January 2021

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The result of the move request was: There is a consensus for Option 2/Not moved below. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 17:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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• Peter Quill (footballer) → Peter Quill
• Peter Quill (disambiguation) → Delete per WP:ONEOTHER

– Sole Wikipedia article main title header, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifier "(footballer)". A hatnote would point to the redirect for Marvel superhero Star-Lord's alternative identity "Peter Quill". Alternatively, if consensus skews towards the superhero alternative identity as being WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT and, since a hatnote at Star-Lord already points to Peter Quill (footballer), then the Peter Quill (disambiguation) page should be deleted per WP:ONEOTHER. If, on the other hand, consensus decides that there is WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC, Peter Quill (disambiguation) could be moved to Peter Quill, with both the superhero redirect as well as the footballer listed on the dab page. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:55, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

• So, to clarify the nomination, there's three options here (depending on which you think the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is for the name "Peter Quill"):

Option 1 (Footballer primary): Move Peter Quill (footballer) to "Peter Quill" (replacing the redirect to "Star-Lord"), use a hatnote to link to Star-Lord. Delete the no-longer-needed disambiguation page per WP:TWODABS.

Option 2 (Star-Lord primary): Keep "Peter Quill" pointed to Star-Lord, use a hatnote to link to Peter Quill (footballer) (like now). Delete the no-longer-needed disambiguation page. (So, basically, the current status quo BUT delete the unneeded dab page per WP:TWODABS.)

Option 3 (No primary): Don't move Peter Quill (footballer) to "Peter Quill", but don't have "Peter Quill" redirect to Star-Lord either. Move the disambiguation page to "Peter Quill", with no primary topic for the name between the two.

So I guess people can just say "Support Option 1/2/3" below. Paintspot Infez (talk) 02:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose This seems an appropriate setup in the vein of Peter Parker or Frank Castle. The footballer is extremely obscure and receives much less pageviews than the redirect. I don't really see the point of the DAB page per WP:TWODABS. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • So to clarify with the above 3 options, that's a Support of Option 2 of keeping Star-Lord as the primary topic for "Peter Quill" (but deleting the unneeded dab page per WP:TWODABS). Paintspot Infez (talk) 02:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose with dance-off spectacularly the worst RM nom so far of 2021. "Peter Quill is" test in Gbooks returns a massive thumping WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Star-Lord, not an obscure Aussie rules micro-stub. Roman this is uncharacteristic from you. RM before first coffee of the day? In ictu oculi (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

In ictu oculi, I appreciate your kind words (about this being uncharacteristic of me, although I am a drinker of tea, rather than coffee, and this nomination was submitted in my time zone at 20:55). Since you leave no doubt regarding opposition to my primary option, may I presume that, among the three options that I proposed and which were so thoughtfully clarified above by Paintspot Infez, you support option 2, per arguments presented by Nohomersryan and Ortizesp? —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:27, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

But what's going on. Are you actually proposing

Peter Quill (footballer) → Peter Quill

That is ridiculous for the footballer stub to be at "Peter Quill". In ictu oculi (talk) 17:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Since Wikipedia has only two "Peter Quill" headers — one, Peter Quill (footballer) and the other, a redirect to Star-Lord — I incorrectly assumed that there may be consensus for removing the qualifier "(footballer)" from the only article bearing that name. However, being aware of the high popularity of Marvel superheroes, my two alternative proposals envisioned either retaining the qualifier "footballer" and deleting the Peter Quill (disambiguation) page, per WP:ONEOTHER, or converting the dab page a two-name list, with neither name being primary.

Although my nomination spotlights option 1, after a passage of two days, option 2 appears to be the most intuitive one, especially since there was no good reason for creation of the dab page in the first place — it is not mentioned in any hatnote — its existence is hidden and it is of no use to users. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Option 2, I understand what you are trying to say here, I believe your point is a little muddled though and might not be communicated so clearly. The DAB should be deleted, since we are assuming Star-Lord is primary. The footballer will be referenced in a hatnote.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment or you could move the footballer to Peter Alan Quill / Peter A. Quill -- 70.31.205.108 (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Option 2 after due consideration of the primary topic, and after coffee. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

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