Talk:Petru Groza

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fixed term of office to agree with list of prime ministers of romania article TMLutas 21:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

WTF?!

Dahn, why did you revert my edit? I simply replaced "Depression" with "Great Depression". What's your problem? Dpotop 12:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

This User:Dahn is stalking me, and probably other editors as well. All my changes are reverted by him on frivolous charges, including when the talk pages demonstrates his defending of absurd POV. Icar 12:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I tried to avoid pages where you conflict. The last edit was not yours or Dahn's. Now I see you were fighting here.

My remark: you (Icar) should add in your version of the lead the part with "PG was a Romanian politician". You should also mark his leading functions between the 2 WW. For instance, he was minister for Transylvania just after WWI. I'll try a change, see if you like it. Dpotop 12:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks much better now. I still see a small problem, with the fact that he headed several governments, from the Communist-dominated one of March 6, 1945 to the outright communist ones after 1946. Maybe adding governmentS would be appropriate.

Btw, I am not "fighting", only trying to remove some revolting propaganda from the 1950's that I thought would never be seriously defended again. Icar 12:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Premier vs. Prime minister

Dahn, do you have a decent reason for changing systematically "Prime minister" into "Premier"? AFAIK, in Romania and in most countries the two words are perfect synonyms. Dpotop 13:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

First of all, I did not "change" it. I changed the second mention of it, because, unlike others, i actually care about how redundant a text is. Just as I care about capitalization, links, grammar, and relevancy. Dahn 13:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hm, on Valter Roman you didn't seem to care about redundancy in the listing of communist parties the guy belonged to. You seem suddenly interested here in style (as opposed to coherency, on Valter Roman)? Dpotop 14:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Dpotop, I reserve my right to ignore fallacies. Dahn 10:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

As usual. The self-justified Dahn ignores whatever other users say, when he wants it. Insulting, I'd say. Dpotop 14:36, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, maybe I should add: if you and your friends have any other assumptions to make about my character, I reserve the right to ignore them. Dahn 14:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Friends? You mean, like you and Khoikhoi (who's reverting for you even when he doesn't have a clue)? No, I don't have such a thing on Wikipedia. Dpotop 18:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Petru Groza

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Petru Groza's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "cs":

• From Romanian legislative election, 1948: This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain. Charles Sudetic (July 1989). "Postwar Romania, 1944-85". In Bachman, Ronald D (ed.). Romania: a country study. Federal Research Division, Library of Congress. LCCN 90006449.
• From Eastern Bloc: This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain. Charles Sudetic (April 1992). "Communist Albania". In Zickel, Raymond; Iwaskiw, Walter R. (eds.). Albania: A country study. Federal Research Division, Library of Congress. LCCN 93042885.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:21, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Bias

This article bears a strong bias against Groza, it makes it sound as if he was the main catalyst in the post-war years. He had no choice, after the Treaty of Yalta Romania fell to the USSR, he tried to ease the transition as best he could, but there is no alternate history, as the article seems to suggest where Romania could have been spared that blight had he acted differently. He did the best he could with what he had, and managed to reclaim Transylvania from the magyars, but he had limited autonomy, and had to report to Moscow. (80.33.152.186 (talk) 10:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC))

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