Talk:Phanes

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Is that really Roman Mithras, "the Bull-Slayer" (2nd cty BC -- 5th cty AD), or rather Persian Mithra of the Zoroastrian (before Christ)?
Jorge Stolfi 04:02, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• Regarding your question on whether Phanes is linked with the Persian Mitras or the Roman Mithras the current scholarly opinion seems to be that mitras wasn't the basis for Mithras, although given the Roman tactic of Syncretism it's possibly that they borrowed elements of him for their miThras - the Roman version is the one that makes him linked with the 'world egg', and certainly the persian version isn't linked with the sun (because of the Persian Ahura Mazda). Mithras is depicted emergng from the 'world' egg on the University of Newcastle website: found here

This stub is self-contradictory (How can Night (Nyx) be older than Phanes if Phanes is first born?) and does not correspond at all to the account given in the Orphic poems (see Guthrie's Orpheus and Greek Religion chapter iV). It should be completely rewritten using reliable sources. Eluard (talk) 05:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Placement of this article

I see no discussion of the *direct* reference to "Greek mythology", although this is rather questionable. Phanes is no mythological figure. I would suggest to first link to Orpheus, 2. to Neoplatonism (important) and only in 3d place to mythology, or leave that out altogether. Obviously the lemma has to be expanded also. Bibh wkp 20:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Sources missing

This article has no sources at all. ICE77 (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 7 April 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 22:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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• Phanes (mythology) → Phanes
• Phanes → Phanes (disambiguation)

– Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name in terms of historical precedent. The other names were named after the deity. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:45, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Randy Kryn (talk) 20:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Seems to be the primary topic. Out of all the articles, Phanes of Halicarnassus is clearly never referred as just "Phanes", whereas Phanes (butterfly), Phanes (organic chemistry) and Phanes (coin issuer) are stubs with little information and little to suggest that average readers are likely to search for them. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 20:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support. The mythology meaning is responsible for 93 percent of relevant pageviews, as you can see here. Nine Zulu queens (talk) 09:11, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 10:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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David Livingstone Is Not A Reputable Source

To whom it may concern,

Found this article wanting to know more about Phanes, clicked on the citation to David Livingstone's "The Dying God," and with minimal digging found that Livingstone's books peddle anti-Semitic nonsense about how the course of history has secretly been manipulated for centuries by a shadowy group of sinister Kabbalists looking to take over the world. He's no "scholar," just a conspiracy theorist (his personal website is actually called "Conspiracy School," for crying out loud.) I'm deleting the citation to his work. Please be more careful.

Wescott06 (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC)