Talk:Phenom II

Phenom II x4 840

This processor uses a propus core, it has no L3 cache. if 840 could be excluded from the generalization of models in the Deneb core that would be great. also if a propus section could be made for the specific processor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.122.152 (talk) 06:23, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

There is also a line with only 4096 kB L3 Cache in C2 Stepping:

http://products.amd.com/de-de/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=526&f1=AMD+Phenom%E2%84%A2+II+X4&f2=810&f3=2600&f4=512&f5=AM3&f6=C2&f7=45nm+SOI&f8=95+W&f9=4000&f10=False&f11=False&f12=True They where the direct successors of Phenom and after them the 'new' Deneb with 6 MB L3 Cache appeared... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.245.86.72 (talk) 08:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

What is the black edition?

This article does not explain the black edition; could someone add content on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.217.200.214 (talk) 14:38, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

My guess, based on forums, is that it's some version of processor with unlocked multiplier, which allows for more flexible overclocking. 217.172.21.161 (talk) 16:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

It is a combination of an unlocked multiplier and easier overclocking potential. Prices are generally higher for a BE version of a given CPU. For example, the difference between two very close processors is roughly $100 (USD.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.5.92 (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

a request

can anyone give a more detailed description about the Phenom architecture and it's changes? and the improvement made over previous generations. Markthemac (talk) 04:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Small inaccuracy

The statement that the tripled L3 cache leads to up to 30% gains in performance is somewhat inaccurate. The Phenom II also has a better architecture.

We go by what the source says, and it attributes the gains to the L3 cache. Also, the statement that the "Phenom II has better architecture" is peacock. You are welcome to improve on the sentence if you can do so with verifiable details. Ham Pastrami (talk) 02:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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