Talk:Phil Salt

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Requested move 8 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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• Phil Salt (cricketer) → Phil Salt
• Phil Salt → ?

– The cricketer is now the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as he is an international cricketer (as of today), and get hundreds of times as many views as the retired footballer over a sustained period of time [1]. Since the previous RM 3 years ago, the cricketer has become much more well-known (the day I started the last RM, Phil Salt (cricketer) had made 45 career appearances in the UK, whereas he's now made over 150 appearances in 4 countries and has become an international player), and so I believe he is now clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Note: Phil Salt titles a page with content and so it must also be dispositioned. If this request is granted, then Phil Salt may be moved to Phil Salt (disambiguation) and tagged with {{One other topic}} in accordance with WP:ONEOTHER, or it may be deleted to make way for the first proposed page move. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 23:26, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

• Support The cricketer is now the primary topic. A hat-note can be added for the other guy. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:04, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support I'd agree that the cricketer is now the primary topic. The footballer only had a career at lower levels. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:50, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support The cricketer is the primary and more significant topic, as he recently made his international debut. I have added a hatnote on this article for clarification with the other guy. — A.A Prinon  ^{Leave a dialogue} 06:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nationality in lead sentence

To me, it is unclear what Salt's (British) nationality is. He was born in Wales, moved to Barbados and then England. He plays for England, thought the team officially represents England and Wales. Mention of his direct nationality has been removed from the opening sentence, so please discuss here before adding "English" / "Welsh-born" / anything similar. In the past, he has emphasised his formative years in Wales and his mother's background here. Spike 'em (talk) 12:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Agree, "is a professional cricketer, who plays internationally for England" covers all the bases well. That he was born in Wales and not England is not the most important thing about him, so isn't needed to be explained in the first sentence, it's adequately covered in the "Early life" section. And this is consistent with guideline Wikipedia:Nationality of people from the United Kingdom#Sport: For sportspeople, their nationality is usually described by the national team that they qualify to represent or, in individual sports, the national sports association or federation with which they are registered. So noting him as playing for England without defining him as English or Welsh is the correct way. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:15, 11 January 2023 (UTC)