Talk:Philadelphia Orchestra
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Regarding proposed merger
editThe article Philadelphia (orchestra) that has been proposed for merger with this article is being discussed on Talk:Montreal Symphony Orchestra. __meco 07:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- But Philadelphia (orchestra) claims to be about the "Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra". Are both articles talking about the same band? Grover cleveland 13:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Why is the fate of this article being discussed on the Montreal Symphony page? No matter. I oppose that as these are two different organizations (with the notability of the PSO yet to be even established in the article). Please reference Disco_orchestration, [1], [2]. You'll have to search the page a bit as this PSO is a peripheral addition to all of them. It appears as this organization is a back-up band for various disco producers in the 1970's.Montco 15:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- The reason this article was mentioned at that other talk page was that these two and a number of similar articles were created simultaneously by the same user and they all seem to suffer from the same discrepancies. This is the list of articles: Montreal (orchestra), London (orchestra), Milan (orchestra), Los Angeles (orchestra), Philadelphia (orchestra) and Detroit (orchestra) (and some that aren't anymore). __meco 15:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. It was just odd to read initially. That said, after what I saw on the PSO, I guess would strongly recommend that anyone closely research any of these other "Orchestra" articles before merging anything. The Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra appears to have as much to with the real Philadelphia Orchestra as Guns N' Roses does.Montco 17:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- The Philadelphia (orchestra) article consists, in its entirety, of an unsourced list of musicians. I would recommend deleting that article in its entirety, rather than merging it. Spikebrennan 20:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- I second Spikebrennan's idea of deleting the article, as it needs to be seriously Wikified and is not much of an article at all. Crashintome4196 18:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- The Philadelphia (orchestra) article consists, in its entirety, of an unsourced list of musicians. I would recommend deleting that article in its entirety, rather than merging it. Spikebrennan 20:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. It was just odd to read initially. That said, after what I saw on the PSO, I guess would strongly recommend that anyone closely research any of these other "Orchestra" articles before merging anything. The Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra appears to have as much to with the real Philadelphia Orchestra as Guns N' Roses does.Montco 17:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- The reason this article was mentioned at that other talk page was that these two and a number of similar articles were created simultaneously by the same user and they all seem to suffer from the same discrepancies. This is the list of articles: Montreal (orchestra), London (orchestra), Milan (orchestra), Los Angeles (orchestra), Philadelphia (orchestra) and Detroit (orchestra) (and some that aren't anymore). __meco 15:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- Why is the fate of this article being discussed on the Montreal Symphony page? No matter. I oppose that as these are two different organizations (with the notability of the PSO yet to be even established in the article). Please reference Disco_orchestration, [1], [2]. You'll have to search the page a bit as this PSO is a peripheral addition to all of them. It appears as this organization is a back-up band for various disco producers in the 1970's.Montco 15:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Philadelphia Orchestra's Robin Hood Dell venue
editI happened to run across a reference to the Philadelphia Orchestra's Robin Hood Dell summer venue which existed before (and maybe after) World War II. The Orchestra apparently made recording released under the name The Robin Hood Dell Orchestra. If anyone has information on this subject I would be interested in seeing it added to this article. Skippydogue (talk) 12:27, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Infobox?
editThe infobox for the orchestra is, in my view, just about completely useless. "Associated acts"? What on earth would they be for an orchestra? "Associated organizations," maybe. And are the only members of the orchestra those listed here? Of course not. That template was designed for pop performers; the consensus at the classical music project here in WP-land has been to remove these boxes. I will do so unless there is a huge outcry within the next day or two. --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 23:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Philadelphia Sound
editI came looking for a description of the Philadelphia Sound, but found it only mentioned. This is the typical case in web search results. A description would be a nice addition. Thx, "alyosha" (talk) 19:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
copypaste tag
editThe history section is the same as text found at http://www.spac.org/orchestra.cfm on 4 Feb 2011, a page which is copyrighted. "alyosha" (talk) 19:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's easy to explain. I think that SPAC copied the history from Wikipedia. If you go back and look at the edit history, I think you'll find that the text (however clumsy, it may be) evolved over time and was not pasted in one block. Wikipedia is PD of course so SPC is free to use it, bu they should give credit. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. Thanks, Markhh (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Having just studied the page history and compared with the SPAC website, I agree with Markhh -- I'm absolutely certain they copied it from us, specifically right after this edit (note the curious and rather unencyclopedic addition of "nobody liked him ..."). Our licensing allows such use, but as Markhh says they really should credit the source -- if only to avoid misunderstandings like this. (This happens more often than you'd think -- someone thinking we have plagiarized or violated copyright when it was actually the other way around.) Antandrus (talk) 03:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
GA push
editHello. I'm considering a possible push for a Good Article. Here's what we may need to do:
- Lead section - needs to summarized into three or four paragraphs
- History section - it should be expanded to cover its background, foundation and decades including the World Wars and music directors.
- Recordings section - might need to be expanded upon as well.
I'm probably going to do a possible redraft of the article off-Wiki. Any other thoughts or input from other members are very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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