Talk:Philip I, Landgrave of Hesse
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editI read something about his bigamy being nominally justified by Luther because of Philipp's claim that he had three testicles. Does anyone have any scholarly sources for this? 70.20.163.248 02:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- I couldn't find anything reputable after a bit of searching. It appears that, probably not surprisingly, it was a contentious issue between Protestants and Catholics of the day, and has remained so ever since. So anyone seeking the truth of the matter will probably have to wade through a lot of propaganda from all sides. --Saforrest 17:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
There are some issues with the list of children. For example, look at:
- Philipp, Count zu Dietz (March 12, 1541 – June 10, 1569).
- Philip II of Hesse-Rheinfels (April 22, 1541 – November 20, 1583).
- Georg I of Hesse-Darmstadt (10 September 1547 – 7 February 1596).
- Philipp Konrad, Count zu Dietz (29 September 1547 – 25 May 1569),
In two separate cases, one child was born a month after the other, from the same woman? I think not.
This site puts the number of kids at a much more reasonable 10. --Saforrest 08:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. He was a bigamist, so the kids were from each of his two wives. I've noted this and sorted them appropriately. --Saforrest 08:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Magnanimous or haughty?
editI removed this section:
"Philip was by all contemporary descriptions a highly intelligent and gifted but also particularly haughty and selfish person; the epithet "magnanimous" thus surprises. However, it seems now that this, the translation of der Großmütige, is actually a misinterpretation; while großmütig indeed means "magnanimous" in modern German, in Renaissance German, it appears to have meant "haughty"."
because this is what German wikipedia writes about his nickname: Seinen Beinamen erhielt er von späteren Geschichtsschreibern, weil er in zahlreichen politischen und kriegerischen Auseinandersetzungen tatsächlich großen persönlichen Mut gezeigt hatte. (translation: "He received his nickname from later historians, because he actually showed great personal courage in many political and military conflicts.")
I would like to see some of these contemporary descriptions before I call this man particularly haughty and selfish. Markussep 17:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Philip of Hesse?
editPhilip of Hesse redirects to this article. Where is the other Philip of Hesse, the one from World War II? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
OK I see he is at Prince Philipp of Hesse-Kassel. This is confusing. Philip of Hesse should be a diambiguation page linking to both princes. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 17:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- There was a hatnote; I have replaced it with the hatnote form that notes the redirect. That should be a little clearer, and may lead someone else to instead create a DAB page, but it's been a long time since this point was made, suggesting the hatnote may be enough. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:27, 5 June 2014 (UTC)