Talk:Phisuea Samut
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editI understand the spelling follows the Phra Aphai Mani article, but it doesn't appear to be particularly common and perhaps the RTGS spelling Phisuea Samut/Phi Suea Samut, without the prefix nang, should be used instead. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your suggestion Paul. I've changed the name. Taung Tan (talk) 09:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
(Bump) I just noticed that the Royal Institute Dictionary defines phisuea samut as the mythological race of sea ogres, so maybe the nang should be included after all, to precisely identify that this is about the female character. On another note, I would suggest not mentioning the "butterfly" translation as it's just a homonym and isn't an accurate translation for the subject. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by BorgQueen (talk) 09:06, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- ... that the sea ogress Phisuea Samut (depicted), a main character from Phra Aphai Mani, is worshipped as a deity in Thailand? Source: "ชาวเกาะเสม็ด ทำพิธีเปลี่ยนชุดให้ 'ผีเสื้อสมุทร' อัศจรรย์ฝนหยุดตกทันที". Thairath (in Thai). 2017-05-01. Retrieved 2023-02-10.
Created by Taung Tan (talk). Self-nominated at 20:50, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Phisuea Samut; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- New enough (but misplaced; it was created on 10 February and nominated on 16 February). Long enough. The prose section is mostly a summary of the legend about Phisuea Samut, and could gain from some context. It simply starts with "Legend tells the story" which seems an odd way to put it. What legend, told by whom, in what context? I think some background would be needed here. Also, I would remove the work "masterpiece" in the lead, unless possibly if you can show through sources that it is broadly considered a masterpiece by critics or in some other relevant way. "Mother Sea Butterfly" in bold should reasonably be placed in the lead, if I interpret the MOS correctly. The hook is supported by inline citations AGF, and the wording is fine. However I lack an inline source supporting the claim that it is an "ogress". QPQ perhaps done but the link is red, so please clarify this. So in all a few things to fix before I will take another look. Good luck! Yakikaki (talk) 09:29, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yakikaki Qpq has been completed and some errors have been corrected. Taung Tan (talk) 07:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks Taung Tan. The QPQ is now done. However, you didn't really address my concerns above. I also have further ones: note 1 needs to be rephrased, I don't understand what it means. Is it the case that Phisuea Samut is called "Mother Sea Butterfly" because of a linguistic similarity between the word "butterfly" and "ghost" in Thai language? What do you mean by "(not an insect)"? Maybe you can elaborate? I also think you need to explain more clearly who erected the statues, and when. It is very vague the way it is written now, again some context would be useful. But perhaps the sources are vague on this point? In that case you could rephrase it as something like "At one point, statues started to be erected..." or some such. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 09:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yakikaki Qpq has been completed and some errors have been corrected. Taung Tan (talk) 07:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- The nominator has been indeffed as of about 3 weeks ago, and an unblock seems unlikely based on their talk page. This will need to either be taken over by a new "nominator" or closed as unsuccessful. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- Marking for closure per above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:09, 8 April 2023 (UTC)