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Parent phosphole first described in 1987... or 1983?

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The article currently states that:

"the parent phosphole itself was first described in 1987"

Quin, L. D. (2000). A Guide to Organophosphorus Chemistry. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 0-471-31824-8.

I tried to find the original paper to add to the list of references, but it seems that phosphole was actually first made in 1983:

"The parent phosphole C₄H₄PH is observed here for the first time"

Charrier, C.; Bonnard, H.; de Lauzon, G.; Mathey, F. (1983). J. Am. Chem. Soc. 105: 6871–6877. doi:10.1021/ja00361a022. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Phosphole was subsequently further characterised by ¹H and ¹³C NMR spectroscopy in 1987 by the same chemists:

Charrier, C.; Mathey, F. (1987). Tetrahedron Lett. 28: 5025–5028. doi:10.1016/S0040-4039(00)96686-3. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Does anyone know any more about the issue?

Ben (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Phosphole vs. Arsole

Latest comment: 11 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

In multiple Wikipedia articles mentioning these compounds phosphole is described as being non-aromatic, but its analogon arsole is described as moderately aromatic. Is this true that arsole is more stable than phosphole? I would rather expect the opposite because phosphole is "closer" to the aromatic compound pyrrole... --79.243.252.242 (talk) 16:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

These articles are written by diverse editors, and for topics that involve a lot of "grayness" (and where the answer does not really make any difference) you will find inconsistent descriptions. Probably you would find the same diversity of opinion in various textbooks. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

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