Talk:Physical punishment

This article was nominated for deletion on 29 November 2015. The result of the discussion was redirect to Corporal punishment.

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Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Okay, how 'bout this: instead of merging this page to the "corporal punishment" page, simply rename this article "physical abuse" instead of "phyiscal punishment". Restructure as necessary. Then, put the "corporal punishment" article under the category about crime, law, punishment, etc. -Alex, 12.220.157.93 01:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC).Reply

You must be joking. Calling either article entirely 'abuse' would be utter POV- whether that is a morally correct POV doesn't make any difference. Maybe an article on physical abuse (way broader then punishment; e.g. abuse doesn't even have to be intentional, not even always knowinly applied) is feasible, but it would be an entirely different matter, and an utter POV-minefield for never-ending feuds on all kinds of opinitated grounds- I for one pass for such a passtime. Fastifex 13:22, 11 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 8 years ago3 comments1 person in discussion

I propose renaming this page "List of physical punishments" and deleting the ~~misleading and unreferenced lead section~~ article text itself, which, even if true, is not supported by reliable sources. Material included in Wikipedia must be verifiable using "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" (WP:RELY). I have found no reliable sources that make a distinction between corporal punishment and physical punishment. Therefore, physical punishment as a separate topic from corporal punishment fails Wikipedia's general notability guideline (Wikipedia:Notability). ~~As a list, the page would still aid in navigation with no notability conflict.~~

It is a spurious distinction to say that physical punishment includes corporal punishment, and only adds confusion to Wikipedia. The two terms are synonymous, as Oxford Dictionaries shows in their definition of corporal punishment: "Physical punishment, such as caning or flogging".^[1] A search for "physical punishment" on The Free Dictionary (Legal) merely redirects to "Corporal punishment". Especially in the domestic sphere, there is no difference in meaning.^[2] The link to "physical punishment" on the other's page should be re-worded "Corporal punishment, or physical punishment", or similar —Coconutporkpie (talk) 08:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

On reflection, I propose to delete the page entirely and redirect to Corporal punishment—the navigational function of a list is covered by the Category page Physical punishments. List articles still must meet the general notability guideline WP:GNG. As noted above, this page does not —Coconutporkpie (talk) 11:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

However, lists that fill a navigational or development function are often kept, according to Wikipedia:Notability#Common circumstances. —Coconutporkpie (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

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^ "Corporal punishment". Oxford Dictionaries
^ "Physical Punishment". American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. Quote:"Physical punishment, sometimes called corporal punishment, is anything done to cause pain or discomfort in response to your child's behaviors."

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[1] "Corporal punishment". Oxford Dictionaries

[2] "Physical Punishment". American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. Quote:"Physical punishment, sometimes called corporal punishment, is anything done to cause pain or discomfort in response to your child's behaviors."

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