Talk:Piano Concerto No. 1 (Liszt)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Smerus in topic Haha!

The first file contains movements 1 and two. and the second one 3 and 4. Check Music Society: http://www.pianosociety.com/index.php?id=397


A question - not about the piece, which, despite the rather stodgy thematic obsessiveness, is a masterpiece of form - but about the performance on this recording. I have the feeling that this is a poor recording of a live performance which has its inevitable occasional false notes and moments of not being quite together, but is nevertheless really well played by a fully professional orchestra of fine (American) orchestral musicians and a virtuoso soloist.

Can anyone tell me if this is so, and who it is?

87.80.12.199 13:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Julian SilvermanReply


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May someone please post a link to a musical score of this piece? I have always heard it but never once saw the actual music on-sheet. ~~MusicalConnoisseur~~ Got Classical? 23:01, 24 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Number of Movements

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Does the concerto really have 4 movements? Most CDs indicate 3 movements. --Temporal User (Talk) 08:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Yes it does....Redundance (talk) 17:39, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Haha!

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Smerus: Your removed a widely reported anecdote as "nonsense". Here's Michael Steinberg in The Concerto: A Listener's Guide, p. 238: "It is said that Liszt and his son-in-law, the brilliant pianist and conductor Hans von Bülow, put words to the two opening measure: "Das versteht ihr alle nicht, haha!". The Hamilton citation in the same paragraph says much the same thing. Those two are not alone: "Das versteht ihr alle nicht, haha!". I suggest not exactly to restore the removed part, but may be use:

To deflect disparagement by his critics, it is said that Liszt and his son-in-law, Hans von Bülow, put the words Das versteht ihr alle nicht, haha! (none of you understand this, ha-ha) to the notes of the opening two bars.[1]

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  1. ^ Steinberg, Michael (2000). The Concerto: A Listener's Guide. Oxford University Press. p. 238. ISBN 9780198026341.

Or the Hamilton citation could be re-used. What do you think? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thank you; I have used a version of your suggestion and also attempted to translate the body of the article into English and tidy up the format. It still needs a lot more citations and a replacement of the essay style of the description. But, as with the awful main article Franz Liszt, just contemplating the task makes me feel queasy. --Smerus (talk) 20:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply