Talk:Pickering Airport Lands

Categorization of proposed airports

Should we categorize non-existant airports under Category:Airports of Ontario (that's an honest question, not a troll)? David 14:12, 2005 May 30 (UTC)

What do you mean? Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 01:40, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

• Oh, I see, that this airport doesn't exist yet. Hmm, sure, but you might want to make a mention of it in the text of the category. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 01:41, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Runway numbering

How can there be a runway at 15/34, it should be 15/33 or 16/34?Tallrichard2 17:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Citations and point of view

I've added a POV-check label - there are a few obviously biased arguments here - "A similar major land expropriation took place north of Montreal for the Montréal-Mirabel International Airport, which opened in 1975, the same year that the Pickering project was postponed. Mirabel International Airport as since met the same fate a Pickering airport will; it was recently closed down and is in the process of being converted into an amusement park." is one example.

Another is: "Once again, there is significant community opposition to the airport, including the umbrella group V.O.C.A.L. (Voters Organized to Cancel the Airport Lands, www.vocalvoice.ca). There is also significant opposition to the airport within the general aviation community,..." - no reference is cited for these types of remarks. --209.161.224.62 (talk) 23:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

obvious and clear POV

Beyond the one line "they maintain (the other airport) will be at capacity in mid-2020" the entire conterversey section (which is MORE then half the page) is a pointed attack at the airport. This is obvious and clear POV and should be removed at once. Nickjbor (talk) 04:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC) I agree. How can there be an operator listed when its an airport that doesn't exist? Why is the line "GTAA has assumed" not editable? Its conjecture at this point.207.61.57.18 (talk) 16:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)Prkmky

Um, probably because the GTAA were the ones who proposed the idea and will be constucting the airport. And the contoversy section does not seem so long--don't see much POV in it. Eelam StyleZ (talk) 04:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree we should remove it. Kanatonian (talk) 14:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...

"in 2009 announced the end of its $1.5 million annual subsidy to Buttonville for handling overflow general aviation traffic from Toronto Pearson"

GA aircraft haven't been allowed into Pearson for decades. My friend's Maule was one of the last in in the 1980s. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

NPOV Dispute

Given that the airport does not even exist, the title "Pickering Airport" doesn't make much sense. "Proposed Pickering Airport" would be much more appropriate.

Also the sentences preceding footnote 5 and 9 are incorrect. The linked news release says nothing about the planned construction of an airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derlaid (talk • contribs) 13:27, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

"Proposed Pickering Airport" would not satisfy WP:TITLE. Pickering Airport is the name that is most commonly used to refer to the project. Throwing in an adverb doesn't make a difference and doesn't sound encyclopedic. EelamStyleZ // TALK 20:15, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Category:Proposed airports shows that we commonly use the common name of proposed airports, when there is one. Atlanta's second airport and Proposed Chicago south suburban airport are examples where there is no common name for the proposed airport. So, "Proposed" at the beginning of the title is not unheard of. Sources are mixed, but the most recent consensus seems to be building around Pickering airport, as an airport located in Pickering, not an airport named "Pickering Airport". See Pickering airport announcement blindsides province and locals (June 2013, the news which seems to have prompted this "dispute"), and Minister Raitt engages Durham, York and Toronto area community, business, municipal leaders on next steps for the Pickering Lands (July 2015). The news release from last month gives a proper name to Pickering Lands, while avoiding "Pickering Airport". Indeed, they now call it "a potential future airport" – the term used 3–4 times in that news release. With this airport now in the proposal stage for over 40 years, and not expected to be operational until 2027 or later, and no official name for this proposed airport, I think it may be appropriate to move this to Proposed Pickering airport, until more concrete plans develop. Rouge National Urban Park still needs to be updated. – Wbm1058 (talk) 14:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Since the article is about the expropriated lands and covers all the uses made and to be made for the land, perhaps a more neutral title would be "Pickering Airport Lands" ? EncycloCanuck (talk) 14:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to rename the page

In light of the above discussion and the lack of any objections in almost five years to my proposed renaming to "Pickering Airport Lands" I intend to make this change in 5 days time unless there are serious objections, in which case I will follow the WP:RM#CM process. It is worth noting that even Transport Canada uses the name "Pickering Airport Lands" EncycloCanuck (talk) 20:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

With no objections having been raised I will now change the name of this page EncycloCanuck (talk) 12:55, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Having made this change I believe that the POV title template should be removed. If there are no objections I shall do so one week from today EncycloCanuck (talk) 14:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

With no objections having been raised the POV title template has now been removed EncycloCanuck (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

References

Map image

I see that we're currently using a map of all of Ontario in the sidebar. I believe the related map of just Southern Ontario might do a better job of identifying the airport's proposed location. 198.52.130.137 (talk) 15:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)