Talk:Picnic at Hanging Rock (novel)/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ribbet32 (talk · contribs) 20:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Well-written:

1a Generally good. WP:LQ move punctuation outside of quotation marks. Under Theatre, US should be U.S. per WP:NOTUSA 1b Needs organizational overhaul. Although "Excised final chapter" can remain a subsection in Plot (though bolding should be removed), its first and third paras should be moved to Publication history, which as stands is a skimpy one-para section. Last para of Conception should also be moved to Publication history. Basis in reality, minus Local tourism, should be a subsection of Conception. Local tourism and Critical analysis can be joined as subsection of a Reception section, which can start off with the note that it is a popular Australian novel, per User:Jbo9995 on talk. Reception should go after Conception and Publication, according to chronology. Radio and Miniseries sections are very short, can they be combined as "Broadcasting" or simply "Radio and television"? "noted" in last para of Local tourism is a WP:WORDSTOWATCH. Just say "said"

Verifiable with no original research

2a Fact tag in Excised final chapter must be addressed. First para of Theatre entirely unreferenced. Additionally, we have a conflicting reference format. It's good Template:Sfn is used for many of the book refs, but it's not used for all of them (Lindsay, Rousseau) 2b See User:Jbo9995 on talk. Also, Ref 14 doesn't support "many interviews", it's what she said to Weir. Ref 16 does not support assertion college is based on Clyde Girls' Grammar School. Ref 20 doesn't support that people yell "Miranda!", only that people are being asked not to (via a T-shirt). Steele quote in Analysis needs cleaning, as it's not clear where the quoting begins and ends 2c. Not concerned about OR, if issues 2a and b are addressed. 2d. Copyright concerns:

Lede: "as though it is a true story" could easily be "as an actual historical incident"

Local tourism: "dioramas, videos, panels and soundtracks"- "various exhibits and audio and video" will do.

Broad in its coverage:

3a. Fairly broad coverage 3b. Not a lot off topic

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

4. To the extent that any "controversy" exists, discussion is balanced. 5. As noted in last GAN, no edit wars taking place

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio

6. Ditto last GAN.

For what it's worth, I think the claim that this book is "considered by many critics to be one of the most important Australian novels of all time" is not adequately supported by the two sources cited: [1][2], which are merely two lists of "top books you should read" by two media organizations. Unless better sources are presented, I would rephrase this sentence to a more neutral summary, such as Picnic at Hanging Rock has been listed on lists of "must-read" Australian novels by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and Mamamia. Mz7 (talk) 17:48, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Already cited that point twice. Ribbet32 (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah whoops, I see that now. In that case, I agree with your assessment of it. Mz7 (talk) 18:22, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Closing comments Failing this nomination as 7 days have passed since went on hold; nominator has edited during this time period, and has been notified [3], and re-notified [4], and re-re-notified, and told it might be closed, [5] but hasn't even responded, or attempted to address even the easiest concerns. So, second failure. You're welcome for my time and review, I guess. Ribbet32 (talk) 04:20, 19 August 2017 (UTC)