Talk:Pidurutalagala

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The term Pidurutalagala is primarily a native name used by the sinhala speaking people only, since it is obviously a Sinhala term. The "pidurutalagala" article already exists in the Sinhala Wikipedia. The term Mount Pedro is the only term widely used in the international community to refer this mountain, including researchers, tourists, etc... Since this is clearly the English Wikipedia, i strongly suggest we name it as Mount Pedro. All comments welcome. Kind regards. Rehman 11:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:UE is clear on this matter. English sources overwhelmingly use Mount Pedro, and not the other name. WP should follow this practice Jasy jatere (talk) 15:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:PLACE is very clear on this matter. " If a native name is more often used in English sources than a corresponding traditional English name, then use the native name.". Pidurutalagala is the widely used form of the name by English sources, not "Mount Pedro". It's also the official name used by the government. [1] --snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 15:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

there is thus consensus to follow the usage of English sources. Whatever name is more common there should be used in the wp article. Rehman seems to think that Mt Pedro is more common in English sources, while Snowolf thinks that Pidurutalagala is the widely used form. Taking google as an indicator, we get the following

* Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 14.900 für "Pidurutalagala". (0,19 Sekunden)

* Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 567 für "Mount Pedro". (0,07 Sekunden)

Seems that Pidurutalagala is much more common (which comes as a surprise to me as well). I therefore recant, and agree with Snowolf that Pidurutalagala should be used. Jasy jatere (talk) 20:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, the government of sri lanka is almost 100% sinhalese; and since they are the only ones who have access to the mountain, they are the only ones giving news to the public about the mountain (in Sinhala), thus the high results as Pidurutalagala in Google. If we just look deeper, you can see that the majority of official international sources use Mount Pedro to refer to the peak. Since there is already such an article in the Sinhala Wikipedia, i really think we should stick to the english title as Mount Pedro. All comment welcome. Regards. Rehman 09:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

your argument is flawed. All Government news in Sinhala about the mountain will have පිදුරුතලාගල. Only news in English or another European language will have Pidurutalagala. I find the relation of 30:1 in favour of Pidurutalagala so striking that it basically renders further discussion futile. But maybe scholarly publications use Mt Pedro in their majority, so if you can provide references for that, this would trump the google search. Up to now, you have asserted that official international sources use Mt Pedro, but you have not given the relevant links/references.

Yes, you are probably right; and since Mt. Pedro can always be redirected, i too agree we should stick to this page. The only reason i wanted to rename this page was for the official english title.
Ps. In case you havent noticed, this talkpage is in Mount Pedro and not Pidurutalagala; so i will be moving it back after this comment. Regards to both. Rehman 09:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Pidurutalagala → Mount Pedro – Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC) Per the previous discussion, "Pidurutalagala" was said to be the widely used term in both, the local community, and the English speaking world. I have now found that this is wrong. Per my visit there last week, everything from referring the mountain, to shops and hotels are named with the word "Pedro". Google gives 22.6 million hits for "Mount Pedro" while "Pidurutalagala" has just 30,400. I think this is a clear reason to move. Rehman 16:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose Google actually has 3,130 hits for "Mount Predro" (including hits for a church in Fl), vs. 33,100 for "Pidurutalagala and 11,300 for "piduruthalagala". The latter is also the name used by official sources [2], and news papers [3], [4]. --snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 03:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

No, I still disagree. Websites such as 1, 2, etc, refer "Pidututalagala" in terms like "Pidurutalagala Forest Reserve", "Pidurutalagala park rangers", etc etc. While the mountain itself is much more commonly known as "Mount Pedro", as opposed to "Pidurutalagala" used in the park names, etc. Rehman 03:29, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The parks are named after the mountain. Otherwise they'd have been called "Mount Pedro Forest Reserve" etc. If you want info on the mountain,

• Gov Website Highest Peak Pidurutalagala 2524 meters
• CIA World Factbook highest point: Pidurutalagala 2,524 m
• SLTDA website The town is overlooked by Pidurutalagala, the highest mountain in Sri Lanka
• Nuwara Eliya DS website Piduruthalagala Mountain

Everything official refers to the mountain as Pidurutalagala. A Google News Archive search will also show most (all?) news orgs. also use the name Pidurutalagala. --snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 15:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Check out WP:OFFICIALNAMES when you get a chance: "Official English names...should be used only if they are actually the name most commonly used". —  AjaxSmack  05:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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Military installation

Curious as to whether the data regarding the military installation and the restricted access are still current. The war has been over for 7 years, and this seems like something that may no longer be true. If anyone knows for certain, it would be nice to verify or update. I will check with my friends in the Sri Lankan air force while there this summer, but would be nice to fix it ASAP if we can. Thank you! King ravana (talk) 18:51, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Use of images

New photo.

Old photo.

This recently added image does not reflect the mountain as clearly as the existing image, as it is dominated by the vegetation in the foreground which is why it has been replaced with the existing image, which better depicts the topic of the article. Dan arndt (talk) 02:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Frankly I don't understand the problem at all (apart from the fact that for Dan arndt it is nearly always a problem, if I replace a picture by my picture somewhere), as the old picture is not showing more of the mountain. --A.Savin (talk) 02:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

As I clearly explained above the subject of the article, Pidurutalagala, is obscured to a significant degree by the vegetation in the foreground and therefore does not represent the best image of the mountain. Dan arndt (talk) 02:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

This is absurd, as both images show lots of vegetation in the foreground. You are just monitoring every of my edits, trying to find reasons to revert as many as possible. Stop harassment. Let me do my job, just like I let you do yours. --A.Savin (talk) 03:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I notice the old picture is by Rehman, who has been kind and fair to me all the time, unlike both others. I am really sorry for that and I would accept his opinion. I just would like to add: even many of the pictures I had taken myself back in 2010/2011, I meanwhile don't find good and would not be upset if someone replaced it (which surely happened numerous times). The old MtPedro picture has really not good light. --A.Savin (talk) 03:10, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

In your image almost half of the photograph is taken up with vegetation in the foreground, which is why it is not the best image to depict the subject of the article. Dan arndt (talk) 03:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Going around in circles? --A.Savin (talk) 03:10, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I actually noticed the edit from Wikidata, and came here to check. A.Savin's photo is certainly of higher quality/lighting and better timing (clear blue sky), compared to the almost-decade old photo which I took with an old camera. That being said, the old photo was taken from a higher elevation, hence what's in the frame is fully that of the mountain (and the summit camp is shown better), compared to the new photo that has vegetation blocking in the lower half. Hence for this reason, I'm taking a neutral stance, leaning toward keeping the old photo. Hope this helps. Rehman 04:59, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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