Talk:Pierre Contant d'Ivry

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Bricology in topic "Chaste and sober Rococo"?

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Rue Saint-Honoré facade of the Palais-Royal

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Re: Image:DSC00652 conseil etat.jpg. Braham (1980, p. 50) gives Contant d'Ivry credit for the garden facade (on the Cour d'Honneur) and the "famous staircase" (escalier d'honneur) and the interiors in the Rue de Valois wing. He attributes the Cour de l'Horlogue facade and the facades on the Rue St. Honoré (including the opera house) to Moreau (p. 106), while the Blue Guide Paris (2007, p. 249) attributes these to "Constant d'Ivry" and fails to mention Moreau. Ayers (2004, pp. 47–48) essentially agrees with Braham, but also adds that Contant d'Ivry is responsible for the design of the avant corps across from the Place de Valois. (This was recently refurbished and is again visible.) Based on Braham and Ayers I am removing the picture of the Rue St. Honoré facade and adding the picture of avant corps facade on the Rue de Valois . It would be a plus if someone could get a picture of the grand escalier and/or the facade on the Cour d'Honneur side. I looked on Commons but didn't find any. (Maybe I overlooked something.) --Robert.Allen (talk) 13:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

"Chaste and sober Rococo"?

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In the lede a rather curious phrase appears: "Pierre Contant d'Ivry...was a French architect and designer working in a chaste and sober Rococo style..." (emphasis added) This borders on the nonsensical, since Rococo, to quote the lede from that article "...is an exceptionally ornamental and dramatic style of architecture, art and decoration which combines asymmetry, scrolling curves, gilding, white and pastel colours, sculpted moulding, and trompe-l'œil frescoes to create surprise and the illusion of motion and drama".
A "chaste and sober Rococo style" is as much a contradiction in terms as say, "a florid and ebullient Minimalist style" would be. Rococo was the final elaboration of the Baroque style, and there are a few "chaste and sober" examples of architecture in the Baroque manner (e.g., the exterior of the Palazzo Barberini). Perhaps it would be more accurate to classify Contant d'Ivry's work as "...a chaste and sober Baroque style..." than to invoke Rococo and confuse readers. Bricology (talk) 20:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply