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Copyright history
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Copyright violationeditUser:Emigré55 has added a large amount of copyrighted material to this article from Pieter Pourbus, Master painter of Gouda, 2018, Catalogue of the exhibition Feb.17 - June 17 2108 at Museum Gouda, ISBN 9789072660121. On p. 84 of this publication, it is stated: "all rights reserved". For examples, this edit is an apparent word-for-word copy of pp. 31–32; this edit, pp. 11–20; this edit, pp. 20–26; and this edit, pp. 26–27. I reverted the article to the version before this editor began making changes on 7 March 2020 [1] with edit summary "remove what appears to be a copy-paste job", a change which the user promptly reverted. Since so much of the article is affected and very few edits by other editors have been made, I feel it is best to revert to that version again. --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC) Copyright granted today by the copyright holdereditThe following email was sent today at my request to the Wikifoundation, as requested:
which translates as follows:
I will of course continue to edit the article to eliminate any controversial issue, and in particular rewrite sections which might be too close to the originally cited articles of this catalogue, which is the most complete and comprehensive source to date for this painter, who was the most important painter of Bruges during the 16th century. --Emigré55 (talk) 11:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC) Additional confirmation of copyright granted, after request of Robert ALLENeditThe following email was sent today by the copyright holder to Robert Allen, in order to confirm that there is no copyright violation:
--Emigré55 (talk) 08:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Further information on copyright granted to Wikipedia on April 16thedit(Copy of the entry witten here)
I took the time to include this second permission in the talk page of the article on the same day at 16:37.
As to allegations that the present text does not meet copy requirements, I have already stated, and repeat here, that the text is under new editing now, which can also be seen by numerous new amendments brought since the page was reinstated. |
Guild(s?)
editQoute from the article. "Pourbus was also a very active member of the Bruges Guild of Sculptors and Saddlers." Yet, Guild_of_Saint_Luke#Bruges states that Saint Luke in Bruge was the guild of painters and other artists, as well as of saddlers. This would mean that Pourbus wasn't "also" member of "Bruges Guild of Sculptors and Saddlers", but that it is one and the same guild. Also, the article doesn't say Pourbus was a sculptor or a saddler, so why would then be part of such guild? I believe there is a mistake introduced here. Eissink (talk) 22:10, 31 August 2020 (UTC).
GA Review
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Reviewer: ArnabSaha (talk · contribs) 19:55, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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edit- The lead is very short. It needs to be expanded, at least 2-3 paras.
- Add an infobox.
{{Infobox person}} - The images are way too big. And there a lot of them. Resize them to 220px (default) and reduce them.
- Image captions aren't clear. Avoid using allcaps.
- Multiple unsourced sections and sentences. Each of them needs to be properly sourced.
- Avoid using external links like wikilinks.
Pass/Fail: 
As per the first criteria of good article immediate failures, an article can, but by no means must, be failed without further review (known as a quick fail) if, prior to the review: It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria. The biggest issue here is the unsourced parts. Sections like Birth and origin, Portrait of a Noble Young Lady and other portraits, Religious paintings, Influence and fame etc. are unsourced.
A lot of work required to make it GA compliant. Refer to the related good articles and featured articles. Also, I would suggest submitting the article for a copyedit at GOCE. When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— ❯❯❯ S A H A 20:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not my review, but a note in passing: is there no portrait of the subject? Not even a self portrait or a sketch/bust? CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 20:41, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- CaptainEek, The man with the turban behind Melchizedek is said to be the self-portrait of Pieter Pourbus in this triptych Vexations (talk) 19:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Vexations, CaptainEek, Thanks to Vexations. My 2 cents just to add that this is according to Paul Huvenne; and that the detail of this figure is on page 8 of the catalogue to the exhibition of Gouda, and presented as such. --Emigré55 (talk) 15:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)