Talk:Pig Destroyer

Powerviolence

PD sounds exactly like a powerviolence band rather than grindcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.22.178 (talk) 05:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Nope! Definatly a grindcore band.

You're off your rocker! No clumsy abrupt time changes, no slow chugging breakdowns, no cookie monster spazz vocals...this ain't powerviolence.

Not even close to powerviolence, in fact I dont even think "grindcore" itself is very accurate for albums like Prowler in the Yard, which sound more like metalcore-esque death metal albums than grindcore.

Intro

The most recent revision includes the following text: At a live recorded concert of Pig Destroyer, JR Hayes' microphone had broke, leaving him to scream the lyrics as loud as he could. The sound came out almost louder then actually using the microphone itself.

I'm not sure that really belongs in an encyclopedia entry, and it is certainly out of place in the intro. If noone objects, I'm going to revert back the previous version. Aboverepine 20:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Gravedancer video

I remember seeing this several times on one of the two major satellite music channels, so I'm not sure how accurate the "little airplay" comment is.

Especially considering the "Loathsome" video got plenty of spins on MTV2, more so than I'd ever expect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrowleyHead (talk • contribs) 00:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

No kidding... The "Piss Angel" video was nominated for a Headbanger's Ball award in 2004, for god's sakes. I think the director of the "Loathsome" video just wanted to make sure people watched it.... in fact, the little added commentary at the end of that section gives it away.

Deathgrind/Grindcore

It's pretty obvious to me that PD are a grindcore band with little, if any, death influences, but there seems to be a bit of a revert war going on. Someone has cited a source that says 'grindcore' (however it also says 'black metal') so lets leave it like that. Metal Archives also have them listed as grindcore. The KZA (formerly MrHate) 07:35, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

→Categorizing bands is kinda silly, especially at this level of intertwinity (real word, trust me) between genres. They're definitely not just straight up grind in a Napalm Death sense, but I'm not sure the other influences

Agreed. Arguing about genres at this molecular level always reminds me of a scene in Airheads where the band all at once spout off 20 different ways to describe their sound. Unfortunately, this is how you get a metal band and someone comes along and says "well, one song I could hear a bit of black metal, so they should be 'heavy metal with black influences" and someone else says "but they definitely sound like grindcore, so it should be 'grindcore with black metal influences'" and then "deathgrind with black influences" and it goes on and on for the sake of satisfying everyone's opinion. The KZA (formerly MrHate) 00:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

User-edited Web sites, such as Metal Archives, are not reliable sources. And allmusic does not have a "death metal" tag, only "death metal / black metal." 68.47.81.164 17:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Pig Destroyer is definitely NOT thrash metal. They are death metal/grindcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.28.234 (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

It's fairly obvious Pig Destroyer is a grindcore band. There's very little in the way of death metal, no double bass, no alternate picking for much of their songs, and the vocals aren't growls.

STRONGLY disagree with your statements that there is no double bass or alternate picking. Especially on prowler in the yard. I agree with the vocals, but that is one of the things deathgrind shares with grindcore, bands like unseen terror and rotten sound —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.141.7 (talk) 00:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why this band is under the classification of 'death metal'. I really hate to tear bands up and seperate the hell out of them through genrefication(real word?) but there's just now way they're 'death metal'. Grindcore for sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.164.217.114 (talk) 05:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

"Deathgrind" is sourced. Check the reference in the infobox. Aryder779 (talk) 01:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

They cover so much ground and evolve so much from album to album that I think pretty much any classification would be fair game. I wouldn't call Towering Flesh a grindcore song, nor would I call Dark Satellites death metal. The fact remains that they clearly span both of these genres. They seem, however, to be generally leaning toward metal influences and away from crust with time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.245.253 (talk) 00:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

If that's true, then surely some reliable sources exist that can be used to support what you have said. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 17:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The New Guy

Pretty sure this guy was in Triac, which is probably more signficant than HATEBEAK XD Went ahead and edited to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.175.160 (talk) 19:04, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm undoing that until it can be added reliably, not "pretty sure". MrMoustacheMM (talk) 20:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Origin

Is there any citation for the Richmond listing under origin? I've been seeing these guys in NOVA for the past 10 years, they write songs about Alexandria, and their myspace cites their location as "Northern Virginia". There's a world of difference between the two regions, and I think this band could only have come from an area where less than 25% of the population are actually functionally human. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.245.253 (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I was able to find this source: http://www.punknews.org/bands/pigdestroyer. Whether it's reliable or not I'm not 100% sure. It looks like a page with proper editorial oversight (ie. random people can't add information to it), but whether the information it gives is true or whether it was taken from WP in the first place, I can't say. If someone else confirms the reliability of this site, we can add it as a source, but until then, I'm not opposed to removing "Richmond" (however, it should not be replaced with another city unless sourced). MrMoustacheMM (talk) 18:08, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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