Talk:Pill mill

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@Atomiccocktail: Has noted that, "'My' German article is the basis' of this article. --evrik ^(talk) 14:04, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that the term pill mill is used to describe pain clinics that regularly prescribe painkillers (narcotics) without sufficient medical history, examination, diagnosis, monitoring and documentation? Moreto, William; Gau, Jacinta M.; Brooke, Erika (2020). "Pill mills, occupational offending, and situational crime prevention: a framework for analyzing offender behavior and adaptation". Security Journal.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ludwig Strecker Jr.

5x expanded by Atomiccocktail (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 15:14, 4 June 2020 (UTC).

• Was sent here by WhatamIdoing's request at WT:MED and am not a regular at DYK, so let me know if I'm missing key parts of the process. Article appears eligible (expanded June 4th from 79 words to 790 words), Earwig's and some spotchecks suggest it's not a copyvio, and it's in okay shape. The hook is uncontroversial, and is clearly supported by several of the sources. I think the reference currently given for the hook is a bit tangential to the hook's point (it's a deep-dive on Florida's pill mills based on interviews with police officers). But sources in the article like [1] completely support the hook (many others touch on it in their introductions, but then go off on another topic). Happy to answer other questions. Ajpolino (talk) 00:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

• @Ajpolino:, if it is new enough, long enough, sourced, copyvio free, and has an acceptable hook, generally you add a {{subst:DYKtick}} at the bottom. Also, you now have a QPQ for your next DYK nomination. --evrik ^(talk) 01:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

• Good to go per Ajpolino's review. I read through the article and agree. I found some minor problems, but nothing I couldn't solve on my own. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 15:15, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but I didn't understand that a "pill mill" was a place, not a term, until I read the article and re-edited the lead. I think you can do much more with the hook than a dry definition. How about:
• ALT1: ... that to avoid prosecution, managers of illegal opioid prescription centers known as "pill mills" tend to run their facilities like pop-up stores? Yoninah (talk) 23:00, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello everyone, thanks for the nomination of the article for "did you know?", which Evrik has arranged.

Personally, I think pill mill is more a term that describes an institution or a business model than a place.

In the German Wikipedia very short hooks are preferred. If you do the same here, then I would suggest

• ALT2: ... that "pill mills" contribute to the opioid epidemic in the US. Atomiccocktail (talk) 08:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Pills mills are both a place and a business model. I am okay with Alt1, less okay with Alt2. --evrik ^(talk) 20:46, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

• OK, thanks. Striking ALTs 0 and 2; although they are true statements, they are not written in a hooky way. @Psiĥedelisto: could you take a look at ALT1 please? Yoninah (talk) 20:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, ALT1 looks good. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 11:56, 2 July 2020 (UTC)