Talk:Pinawa

Requested move 23 November 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:09, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Pinawa → Pinawa, Manitoba – I had previously submitted this page to be moved to "Pinawa" from "Pinawa, Manitoba" as an uncontroversial technical move. It appears there is now an objection. FUNgus guy (talk) 05:15, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Oppose: WP:MOSCAN#Places indicates that settlements in Canada do not need to be disambiguated with their province/territory if the title is completely unique. FUNgus guy (talk) 05:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose, excessive disambiguation. We shouldn't be copying the mess that is USPLACE into other countries. Timrollpickering 12:09, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support - Few readers or editors know where the hamlet of "Pinawa" (pop. 1,444) is unless "Manitoba" is attached to its name. Removing the province from the name is contrary to WP:CRITERIA. Wikipedia should offer its readers clarity, not confusion, because "Pinawa" could be a place or a rock band or a food, while "Pinawa, Manitoba" is unmistakably a lesser-known settlement in a Canadian province. Is there some advantage to the readers of Wikipedia to removing the province from this settlement's name? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Needless disambiguation. Why ambiguate something just because it could hypothetically be something else? Nothing "Pinawa" could possibly be anything other than the hamlet. Maybe if it was a US city but thankfully Canada isn't under USPLACE. Nohomersryan (talk) 14:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't exist for its editors, it exists for its readers. That's why I asked "is there some advantage to the readers of Wikipedia to removing the province from this settlement's name?" Magnolia677 (talk) 16:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

An article title that's concise and consistent, among others. I can't think of any reason why it should be disambiguated; readers are not that dumb. This is the primary topic for "Pinawa" simply because it's the only topic for "Pinawa". A topic being obscure is not a call for disambiguation. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

You could learn a thing or two from Hookers Hot Springs. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:16, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

A reader would only arrive at this page if a) they searched for Pinawa, or b) clicked on a link on another page where it would be known it's a settlement. Even if they did Random article, it's very clear that this is a settlement in the first sentence ("Pinawa is a small Canadian community..."), not to mention the pinpoint map showing where it is. FUNgus guy (talk) 04:58, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.