Talk:Pingelapese language
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editSolomon, Stenson D. "Pinelap non-sacred Knowledge" prepared by Stenson D. Solomon and Department of Land and Natural Resource, 2009 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aarden1011 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
http://search.proquest.com/docview/1267150306 "Preverbal Particles in Pingelapese: A Language of Micronesia" Hattori, Ryoko 2012 Aarden1011 (talk) 20:17, 5 February 2017 (UTC)Aarden1011
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edit- sorry late, but I like how your page is organized. I would recommend putting in what the base is and the formula thing in the numeral place. - If there is more information on the background in the calander please do so. sorry, and thank you. --Emcho7 (talk) 22:13, 15 February 2017
- in the 'family and origin' section, make sure to put the reference after the last sentence, where it addresses Morton et al.
- don't forget to put references!! also in the first and second paragraphs of the 'history'
- i know it's just a rough draft, but for the final, make sure that you make everything concise! For example, the 'sentence structure' part is very very long and condensed.
- I love all of the different topics you guys have! They're all super unique and contain quite a bit of info!
Corinaquach (talk) 07:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your input. We will be sure to add sources and clean up the sentence structure.
- I'm not sure if the date and calendar systems are relevant to the language, however if they are, I think its very interesting to include those sections. Maybe expand on those ideas and add some history as to why they follow a lunar calendar?
- I like how you provide examples for sentence structure, however I do feel that examples should be provided for unaccusative verbs and discourse pragmatics structures. This what make these concepts easier to understand, and add to the consistency of the paragraph
Bradenms (talk) 18:54, 13 February 2017 (UTC)bradenms
We believe the calendar and date system are relevant to the Pingelapese language, because they have a unique numerical system. However we will be able to include examples for unaccusative verbs for the final.
- In terms of writing this article make sure you come from a neutral standpoint. Avoid words that might incite opinion, for example in your lead section you use the word "fortunately". Make sure to look out for these types of words.
- Citations are present however, maybe try to cite when the ideas are used rather than stacking the citations next to each other at the end of a section.
- I really like the examples used in terms of the numerals, and date system. May I suggest you create a chart for the numeral system so it is easier to read. Not too sure if this is allowed but just a thought.
Andyluu0127 (talk) 05:44, 15 February 2017 (UTC)Andyluu0127
Thank you for catching the non-neutral standpoint, we will be sure to revise it. We will fix the citations and make a chart for the numerical system.
- Amazing job taking facts from multiple sources and bringing it to a presentable format!
- However, I'd suggest rereading through the whole thing and making sure all your facts agree, namely your phoneme and phonology sections when referring to the amount of vowel phonemes. Maybe bring these two sections closer together in the overall format?
- In Date system and Numerals, don't be afraid to space things out to make it easier to see, read, and understand. Such as splitting the number of the date (e ling, sehm, ...) and the days of the week (niyaehd, niyari, ...) into two separate paragraphs. And splitting the two counting systems in the first paragraph of Numerals.
- Really appreciate the depth you guys go into on pretty much all the topics you have started so far, very thorough and well defined.
Elemasa (talk) 18:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. We will revise to make sure our facts agree and the sections are well organized. We will also make a chart for the numeral system.
I really like the information you have added to your page! As for the numerals and date system, I found it a little difficult to follow along. May I suggest a chart for a clearer picture? Great job! Rrrupley (talk) 18:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Source List continued =
editBrody, Jacoba., Irena Hussels, Edward Brink, and Jose Torres. "Hereditary Blindness Among Pingelapese People Of Eastern Caroline Islands." The Lancet 295.7659 (1970): 1253-257. University of Hawaii at Manoa Library. Web. 6 Feb. 2017.
Lowe, J. K., T. M. Phippen, G. D. Aguirre, E. A. Ostrander, and G. M. Acland. "Linkage and Comparative Mapping of Canine Cone Degeneration: Locus Homology to Pingelapese Achromatopsia." American Journal of Human Genetics 67.4 (2000): 306. University of Hawaii at Manoa Library. Web. 6 Feb. 2017. Source.
Zsf8 (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Peer Review (JF)
editIt is a relatively good article for those who want to know Pingelapese language. It has a clear structure and is illustrated in detail. Also, it contains a lot of reliable source that comes from books and journals. But this article is still need some improvement. First, in the sentence structure section, it is difficult for reader to read the article continuously without any pause. The best way to fix it is to divided the whole paragraph into some sub-paragraph. And also there is too much " for example " in this paragraph, you can replace it with some transition word to make it smoothly. Second, each section is not balance. The sentence structure and the most detailed information and the Calendar system has not so much information. The last thing is the section order. As a reader, I want to know more about the phonological knowledge of the language in the first paragraph. And the section of Calendar system and date system should put combine together. JIAFU (talk) 06:01, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Inconsistent number of speakers
editThe article's infobox says that the language has about 3000 native speakers. Yet the text of the article has the figures 1500 and 2000. catsmoke (talk) 11:50, 3 June 2019 (UTC)