Talk:Pisaurina mira

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 September 2020 and 17 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Dyklee. Peer reviewers: Dgoldblum, RenaBio472, Davidcho122.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 02:23, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Edits

I have revised this Wikipedia page as of 10/20/20 in the following ways: 1. I have edited and added more information to the introduction, removing any citations that were incomplete, and providing more general information about Pisaurina mira. 2. I have added images from Wikimedia Commons with a brief description. I did not add descriptions to the two photos above the Taxonomy box as the photos themselves did not have a description. 3. I have added 14 new categories, ranging from general Description to Contribution to Ecosystem. 4. I have added footnotes to appropriate places. Please feel free to edit any of my work as you deem appropriate. Dyklee (talk) 00:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Behavioral Ecology Student Suggestions

I found this article to be really thorough and well-written! I did add in one very short section, Webs, because the nursery web is mentioned in the Lead section and in Reproduction but didn't have its own section. If there is more information about webs in the literature, I think this section could also benefit from being expanded. I also added in hyperlinks to other Wikipedia articles on some words that I thought would be interesting to read more about or that readers might want clarification on. Overall, I thought that this was a really good and well-written article. I especially found the Lead and Mating sections to be really interesting and thorough. RenaBio472 (talk) 00:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Behavioral Ecology Student Suggestions

You wrote a very well rounded, well-written article! I made a few grammatical and word changes just to better help the flow of the article. My main comments revolve around the habitat and diet sections. For the habitat section, the Geographic Range subheading had a confusing sentence that I would recommend revising. The sentence about the locations of the spider in the US was a bit clunky and I was not sure if you were describing the range between states or where in the states the spiders are found. Maybe clarifying from Florida too west texas for example would help the article. I did not make any changes there because I did not want to accidently add any incorrect information about the spider's range. In regards to the diet section, the sentence regarding venom seemed to be conflating venom and digestive juices. I believe that those are typically two separate things. Venom is used to immobilize prey while the digestive juices break down its inside. If in this spider they are the same, say so! And if they are not I would recommend putting them into 2 sepperate sentences. The mating section was incredibly well written and thorough great job! Dgoldblum (talk) 20:46, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Behavioral Ecology Student Suggestions

I really enjoyed reading your article! I corrected a few grammatical inconsistencies like pronoun references. I also took the liberty of removing a few words that seemed to interrupt the flow of the article. I would recommend that you shorten the length of your lead section as it seems relatively long. Perhaps, you could move some information into a description section. For the geographic location, I moved the statement about being the most common species in eastern United States to that section. I also think it would be beneficial to specify “west to Texas, and north to Kansas and Minnesota.” Also, I don’t believe the comparison to the wolf spider would be necessary. Overall, the article was really informative and very well-written! davidcho122 (talk) 20:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Nursery web spider

This article starts with:

Pisaurina mira, also known as "nursery web spiders", is a species

That is, it says that the phrase (name?) nursery web spider refers to this species. But Wikipedia has an article named nursery web spider and that article says that nursery web spider is a family of spiders. So something needs to be clarified or corrected concerning this. --Ettrig (talk) 11:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Referring to leg pairs

The article talks about legs I to IV. I guess that this refers to leg pairs counting from front to back. But this terminology is too technical for a Wikipedia article, and unnecessarily so. The article about spider anatomy neither uses nor explains this terminology. I suggest replacing legs I an II with the four front legs. But again, I don't know whether this change would be correct. --Ettrig (talk) 11:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree with this comment. This article was the first time I encountered the spider leg numbering system, and at first I thought it was only referring to two legs rather than to two pairs of legs. I actually went out of my way to research spider anatomy (off-Wiki, as the Spider anatomy article indeed doesn't mention this) in order to understand. I like the suggestion to rephrase "legs I and II" with "the four front legs"; that should be clear to virtually all readers. Armadillopteryx 22:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pisaurina mira/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Esculenta (talk · contribs) 18:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I will review this article. Starter comments:

• "P. mira is found all along the eastern seaboard of the United States and west to Texas, Nebraska, and Wisconsin, as well as in Canada". This sentence is not supported by the cited source, which does not mention Texas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, the eastern seaboard, nor Canada.
• "Pisaurina mira is usually seen in the woods and meadows, but it is most populated in the transitional areas between woods and fields. They inhabit tall grass, shrubs, and bushes, which gives them an advantage considering their hunting strategy, waiting for prey to come within their reach and using their pincers ("sit-and-wait ambush predator")." the information in these sentences is not supported by the cited source.
• "Nursery web spiders are found in Western and Southern Europe, as well as some regions in Canada, such as Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia. While being the most common spiders in the eastern United States, they are found in Florida, west to Texas, and north to Kansas and Minnesota." Not supported by the source.
• "Accordingly, the highest population level for P. mira was in June as well.[3]" This is an incomplete representation of what the source says, as the monthly timing of the highest populations levels vary with location.
• I don't think Animal Diversity Web can be considered a reliable source, as the page in question was written by a student. All of the citations pointing to this page should be replaced.

I'll leave these comments for the nominator to work on. Esculenta (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dyklee: Hi, I saw you made a few edits to the article on Jan 4. Are you interested in continuing this review? Esculenta (talk) 13:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

No edits to the article since Jan 4, and no indication of interest in participating in this review. Closing review. Esculenta (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Esculenta: Hi, I'm so sorry about the delay, I was out of town and was not able to work on the article. I have been trying to replace the UMich source with another source. Would I be able to start a new nomination and be reviewed again? I'm so sorry!