Talk:Place of birth

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Sorry if this article is very short. I do not know everything about legal issues around place of birth; but I noticed this article was missing; so here's a start.... Huijts 16:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

The article should probably be merged into jus soli. Of course the latter article has a narrower focus but the only encyclopedic value I can see in the topic of place of birth has to do with the legal aspect of it. Pascal.Tesson 15:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree; although the jus soli article is good for users interested in citizenship law, this article is helpful for users who might need a simple explanation of the concept "place of birth" which often appears on official documents. Someone trying to find out, for instance, whether their place of birth is their parents' place of residence when they were born, or the actual hospital, can find that easily here without wading through the jus soli article. Also, place of birth is a more widely known concept than jus soli (also, I'm willing to bet, a more common query), and so a redirect from "place of birth" to "jus soli" is counterintuitive at best. 72.93.245.161 03:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

tuu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.3.48 (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Last paragraph

I struggle to see the point of the final paragraph, as it is very obvious:

Some administrative forms may request the applicant's "country of birth". It is important to determine from the requester whether the information requested refers to the applicant's "place of birth" or "nationality at birth". For US citizens born abroad who under the US Constitution acquire US citizenship at the time of birth, the nationality at birth will be USA (American), while the place of birth would be the country in which the actual birth takes place.

Of course the "place of birth" is the "place of birth" and not the "nationality at birth".

I think this stems from a common American assumption that where you are born determines your nationality, wherever you are. This is ONLY the case in the Americas - in almost every other country in the world, where you are born is irrelevant and does NOT determine your nationality, it is solely your parents' nationality(-ies) that determines this.

I wonder if this last paragraph can be deleted. To me, of course if you're asked for your place of birth, you enter your place of birth. There is no ambiguity. Your place of birth is irrelevant as regards your nationality, which may or may not be the country where you were born.

Defunct places of birth

The article could be expanded to include what happens when a place of birth is defunct, for example a state, province or country that is abolished or reorganised.Park3r (talk) 02:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)