Talk:Placentophagy

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Accuracy Dispute

There is no evidence whatsoever presented of the practice of "human placentophagy". It is highly dubious. The author should cite his sources I think. ReithySockPuppet 20:23, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You're troll, why do you just go after this page? why don't you go after the childbirth page too? I don't know why I even reply to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuck F (talk • contribs) 2004-10-23T00:29:04

When I came across this article, the quote from Maggie Blott was contradictory to what she said in the citation. I've corrected it. --Loupdebois 15:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed "Placenta has also been used to mitigate fatigue and menopausal symptoms. A study tested the efficacy of this by injecting menopausal women with Human Placenta Extract, and found that both menopausal symptoms and fatigue were reduced as a result." Upon looking up the source I found that the study did not find sufficient evidence to prove the claims made by the person who cited it. Bradman3001 (talk) 14:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC) This article is based on pure speculation. Why not present reasons SOME mammals eat placentae and some do not. Some mammals also eat their young.. Are you advocating that as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.25.225 (talk) 22:06, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Moved to talk, awaiting cites

In a few cultures it is custom for the mother to eat the Placenta after their newborn's birth. Thoese who advocate Placentophagy in humans believe that eating the placenta prevents postpartum depression and other pregnancy complications.

Human Placenta has also been the ingredient in some traditional Chinese medicines.

Since these claims have been disputed, please give cites to support them before putting them back in the article. -- The Anome 00:33, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Everyone editing the page besides me and you is all the same user... There currently is an abritration case open again them... They use multiple accounts to make thier editrs seem like they have a concenus, and have been trolling me and every single Edit i make

Then the way to move forward is to provide cites for your statements; attempts to remove well-cited NPOV text without consensus on the talk page tends to be classed as vandalism, and they will either have to work with you according to the rules or be blocked from editing. However, first the onus is on you to provide the cites and put your text into the NPOV style. -- The Anome 00:49, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

it is in npov style... and why didn't he equally go after the childbirth article.. go edit it. Human placentophagy is a known fact.

Thanks for the cite. Ive also added one for the Chinese medicine bit. -- The Anome 01:16, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC) How many more cites are needed do you think? ReithySockPuppet 02:21, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Why in the world does this page even need cites in the first place(within the article)? Childbirth has absoulty zero cites on it. Chuck F 07:26, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Read wikipedia rules, you need sources. Your own thoughts are not sufficient to constitute an encyclopedia entry. I have contributed some to assist the development of the article. Hope it helps. Reithy 09:30, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I know that you need sources... but the sources don't have to be cited in the article, (that's why I put within the article in parantheses). no sources needed to be cited in the article.. and I'd say we're better off not.. unless it's controverstial

Well, it looks like adding cites is doing exactly what it was intended to do; defusing an edit war, and turning previous edit-combatants into edit-collaborators. My work here... is done. [flies off with whooshing noise] -- The Anome 18:05, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Unsigned Talk

Very poor form to leave Talk unsigned, it isn't difficult to sign just do four of these: ~

Reithy 18:42, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Copyright Violation?

Chuck_F asserts that a "friend" gave him permission to use their image and no further explanation is required. Wiki is not allowed to use copyright images without permission so he should disclose copyright owner and demonstrate permission. Reithy 01:09, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

How do you propose I do that? Upload some written contract saying premisson which you'll probly say I stole, and put it up as a copyright violation?

It's not up to me, but I do know they take copyright violations seriously around here. I would have thought something of the nature you've described should be acceptable according to wiki rules. I strongly suggest you keep the copyright warning up there while you do this. Reithy 04:34, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)

• Image:Rateatingplacenta.jpg is still tagged as possibly unfree. Please stop putting it in and taking it out over and over. Chuck F., if you can provide information as to the source, photographer, whatever of the image, please do so. If anyone else has any information suggesting that the image is copyrighted or that Chuck F.'s claim is inaccurate, please provide it. Thanks. -- Infrogmation 17:31, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oh, come on now. We have this lovely concept of fair use. Wikipedia gets lots of leeway here: Wikipedia is educational, Wikipedia is non-commercial, the image does not form the bulk of Wikipedia content, there is no evidence that the image has commercial use... Until somebody sends a DMCA takedown notice, I wouldn't worry. AlbertCahalan 16:15, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Please respect the copyrights of the owner of "Rateatingplacenta.jpg". I have no doubt that this photo is the owner's cash cow, and we are costing him/her thousands of dollars in lost revenue every day by allowing it to continue to be posted on Wikipedia. Let's show some respect, people! Grammaticus Repairo 13:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Help on source (placenta-eating)

I remember reading about this in one of the mainstream "you're about to have a baby books". I was looking through books for a friend. I don't remember which one it was, but it was one of the more popular mainstream ones. I don't think it was "What to Expect when you're Expecting". Might have been "The Baby Book : Everything You Need to Know About Your Baby From Birth to Age Two"... anyways it was a book along that purpose. I'm sorry I can't help more, but maybe this will jog another visitor's mind. --geekyßroad^{. meow?} 17:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

references

No evidence for placentophagy in humans reported by Jones and Kay a wide survery of pre-industrial societies.

Jones, E. and M. A. Kay (1987). The cultural anthropology of the placenta. The Human placenta: clinical perspectives. J. P. Lavery. Rockville, Md., Aspen Publishers: xv, 288 p.

If evidence for placentophagy in culture other than a subset in industrialized US or europe, I'd be very interested to know.

intruiging anthropological or evolutionary question: why are some mammals placentophagous and others (including humans) not?

In mice MEST gene is associated with placentophagia (however humans have MEST too): Nature Genetics 20, 163 - 169 (1998) doi:10.1038/2464 Abnormal maternal behaviour and growth retardation associated with loss of the imprinted gene Mest Louis Lefebvre, Stéphane Viville, Sheila C. Barton, Fumitoshi Ishino, Eric B. Keverne4 & M. Azim Surani

I can't figure out wikipedia yet, but someone may want to add these to the definition page. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.129.249.238 (talk • contribs) 2006-04-15T05:35:39

Tom Cruise and Scientology

Should mention of Tom Cruise's intent to eat his child's placenta be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeyduck (talk • contribs) 2006-04-19T02:45:22

No, it shouldn't. Already it's been added twice and deleted twice, presumably by Farkers; check the page history. Melchoir 02:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

In other news: Tom Cruise went to sleep. Tom Cruise wiped his ass. Tom Cruise drank a beer. Tom Cruise took a shower. Tom Cruise watched a sunset. Now we need to update all those articles. Sure. AlbertCahalan 04:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

On that note, Toilet paper is a much more detailed article than I was expecting... Melchoir 04:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Yuck, just how the hell are you supposed to eat this shit!? You'll need to cover it up with a mountain of ketchup or something. -anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.242.54 (talk • contribs) 2006-04-22T21:49:17

ketchup not required

New: This might be able to provide some evidence: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/placenta-snack.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.110.177.201 (talk • contribs) 2006-12-31T04:23:06

Citing dictionaries

Building a logical argument with selective dictionary definitions is perhaps not in keeping with the best of academic standards. I feel that the two original dictionaries cited probably also list the definition I've just added, but having no access to them I've had to settle for different editions of similar texts. My main contention, though, is that it's too "soft" an argument to be made and we should do away with using dictionaries to argue this point at all. Shane Lin (talk) 23:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Possible, but unlikely sources

The EL section isn't meant to hold sources, so I'm pasting them here. A variety are outright inappropriate for most uses (blogs and personal diaries). WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 14:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

• The Placenta, gynob.com, retrieved 2007-12-12, with quotes from Williams Obstetrics, 18th Edition, F. Gary Cunningham, M.D., Paul C. MacDonald, M.D., Norman F. Grant, M.D., Appleton & Lange, Publishers.
• Cooking Up Placenta
• Preparing and eating a vegan placenta casserole (words and pictures)
• From The Straight Dope
• One woman's account of her experiment with Placentophagy
• Estudio Bromatologico de la Placenta Humana
• Afterbirth: It's What's For Dinner (story with video) TIME (magazine) article by Joel Stein, 2009-07-03
• Placenta Benefits.info - Resources and information regarding human maternal placentophagy for postpartum women
• From Here to Maternity Week 8: Want a side of placenta with that?

Good call. I've copied the http://www.gynob.com/ URL into the ELs of Placenta. The Time article may be useful on this article, however it seems like an op-ed, and I want to know who the 'Cassandra' is in the article. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 03:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)